Non metalic Particle detection

harold53
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Posted in: , on 5. Aug. 2006 - 03:23

We are looking for a system to detect non metalic particles in a dry sugar bulk stream or in sugar packages.

Please if you know any technologies advice us to contact them.

Thanks

RPD - Invista (UK) Ltd., U.K.
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Re: Non Metalic Particle Detection

Posted on 7. Aug. 2006 - 11:05

As sugar is a "non-metalic particle", I guess you will have no problem detecting plenty of non-metalic particles in your stream.

You need to be more specific, is it large lumps of sugar, pieces of plastic, any foreign bodies over a certain size, etc. etc. that you are trying to detect?

Also, are you really trying to "detect" them or are you trying to "remove" them? Depanding upon what the particle is, it may be easier to remove than to detect with an instrument.

Metal Detector/Separator For Bulk Sugar

Posted on 7. Aug. 2006 - 01:53

Hello,

I assume you are looking to detect and separate non-magnetic metals from your sugar. If so, we have a few products which can help you.

Our website is www.metal-detectors.com

We can install a system that operates in a gravity flow of material, or in a pneumatic conveying line.

I recommend either our Rapid 5000 (Gravity Free Fall) or GF4000 (pneumatic conveying).

The Rapid 5000 would be the most economic if you have a place to install it.

Feel free to contact me directly through our website.

Brian

Whooops

Posted on 7. Aug. 2006 - 01:54

Sorry, I've just read your original post again, I would have sworn it said "non-magnetic" particles, as opposed to non-metallic.

Sorry for the confusion, but we really need more specific information on what type of contamination you are looking for.

harold53
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Re: Non Metalic Particle Detection

Posted on 7. Aug. 2006 - 06:29

We are trying to solve a quality problem, so we actually call "non-metallic" particles to all kind of impurities but specially dark points

Re: Non Metalic Particle Detection

Posted on 7. Aug. 2006 - 10:36

OK so they're dark & non-metallic: anything else?

John Gateley johngateley@hotmail.com www.the-credible-bulk.com

Re: Non Metalic Particle Detection

Posted on 9. Aug. 2006 - 04:53

You may need a metal detection for non-magnetics, that will be possible by metal detection with a big throughput and 12,5 mm accuracy; and/or you need a colour sorter.

Both is available, also in combination.

Or do you have the same colour and you want to separate stones and organics ? What is the size of your material?

harold53
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Re: Non Metalic Particle Detection

Posted on 9. Aug. 2006 - 09:39

We don´t have any problem to handle metallic particles (magnetic or non-magnetic). Such particles can be detected with a a well known field sensing aparatus.

The major problem is deailing with : Debris, belt pieces, caked sugar coming from corners, Grease leakage from hangers that become sugar covered, and all of them turn to a dark color.

As this is a normal group of impurities, I wonder if anybody has searched in the leading edge technologies using optical sensors and neuronal nets to make direct comparisons against pre-setted pictures or something like that. I read about it some time ago in National Instruments and in Hunter Labs., but We want to know if there are succesfull applications.

Re: Non Metalic Particle Detection

Posted on 12. Aug. 2006 - 11:08

What did National Instruments & Hunter Labs. say then?

John Gateley johngateley@hotmail.com www.the-credible-bulk.com

Free Fall
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Re: Non Metalic Particle Detection

Posted on 18. Aug. 2006 - 03:38

How about screening?

Color Sorting

Posted on 28. Aug. 2006 - 02:20

It may be possible to use color sorting since the contamination turns black, and I assume this is white sugar. The limitation will be the particle size. The theoretical resolution of an optical color sorter is 2mm, but for practical applications we recommmend particle sizes of ~4mm. Another factor would be the cost, since typical color sorters are +$100,000 USD.

http://www.metal-detectors.com/produ...ucts.cfm?pid=7

harold53
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Re: Non Metalic Particle Detection

Posted on 28. Aug. 2006 - 03:56

Thanks bkeck

Of course we are working wiht withe refined sugar so you are right.

I think that sizes range about 2-3mm and rarely 4mm.

What is the operating principle of the detector you are referring?

From a consultant in a recent meeting I heard that is available some device working with microwaves but he didn´t remember any make.

In a recent TV program I have seen an application to sense in a rice stream just in the feeding chute to the bagging machine and uses an air blast to separate the imputities.

Finally, if we can control metallic and non-metallic particles with the same device I think the cost is not a concern.

Re: Non Metalic Particle Detection

Posted on 15. Sep. 2006 - 06:10

Sir,

you can go for vibrating screen to seperate non-metallic parts from sugar. In case u r looking for a metal detector we will help u.

In both cases pl. contact us with your details

with regards

Janakiram

mktg@emil.co.in

M-09900206378


Originally posted by harold53

We are looking for a system to detect non metalic particles in a dry sugar bulk stream or in sugar packages.

Please if you know any technologies advice us to contact them.

Thanks