Design Calculations for Pneumatic Conveying

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My article "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems" was published this month in

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Regards,

Amrit T. Agarwal

Consulting Engineer

Pneumatic Conveying Consulting Services

Email:

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Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 19. Feb. 2009 - 02:15
Quote Originally Posted by Amrit AgarwalView Post
My article "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems" was published this month in Powder Handling and Processing magazine. This article gives an easy to use Excel-based calculation method for designing new dilute phase pneumatic conveying systems or for improving the performance of existing conveying systems.

Regards,

Amrit T. Agarwal

Consulting Engineer

Pneumatic Conveying Consulting Services

Email: polypcc@aol.com

Ph and Fax: 304 346 5125

Dear Sir,

Could you please mail us the excel sheet to mailid kvs@essar.com

Thanks & regards,

Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 19. Feb. 2009 - 02:15
Quote Originally Posted by Amrit AgarwalView Post
My article "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems" was published this month in Powder Handling and Processing magazine. This article gives an easy to use Excel-based calculation method for designing new dilute phase pneumatic conveying systems or for improving the performance of existing conveying systems.

Regards,

Amrit T. Agarwal

Consulting Engineer

Pneumatic Conveying Consulting Services

Email: polypcc@aol.com

Ph and Fax: 304 346 5125

Dear Sir,

Could you please mail us the excel sheet to mailid kvs@essar.com

Thanks & regards,

Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 21. Feb. 2009 - 12:38

Dear Mr. Agarwal

could you please send me your article along with the xl calculations sheet as it will definetly helps in my upcoming project.

thank you


Quote Originally Posted by Amrit AgarwalView Post
My article "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems" was published this month in Powder Handling and Processing magazine. This article gives an easy to use Excel-based calculation method for designing new dilute phase pneumatic conveying systems or for improving the performance of existing conveying systems.

Regards,

Amrit T. Agarwal

Consulting Engineer

Pneumatic Conveying Consulting Services

Email: polypcc@aol.com

Ph and Fax: 304 346 5125

Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 21. Feb. 2009 - 12:38

Dear Mr. Agarwal

could you please send me your article along with the xl calculations sheet as it will definetly helps in my upcoming project.

thank you


Quote Originally Posted by Amrit AgarwalView Post
My article "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems" was published this month in Powder Handling and Processing magazine. This article gives an easy to use Excel-based calculation method for designing new dilute phase pneumatic conveying systems or for improving the performance of existing conveying systems.

Regards,

Amrit T. Agarwal

Consulting Engineer

Pneumatic Conveying Consulting Services

Email: polypcc@aol.com

Ph and Fax: 304 346 5125

Determine Solid Friction Factor For Cement

Posted on 22. Feb. 2009 - 09:51

hi every body,

i want to determine pressure drop in pneumatic conveyor for transport cement material with this specification:

Solids Conveying Rate (W): 120 ton/h

Pipeline characteristic: 42 m Vertical with 365 mm diameter and 9 m Horizontal with 350 mm diameter

Gas Temperature (T): 80 C

Gas velocity at inlet of conveying system (Vg): 16 m/s

Pipe line Roughness Factor: 0.0005

maximum gauge pressure of conveyer: 0.45 bar

altitude above sea level (m): 1581 m

but i dont have K (Solids Friction Factor) for cement.

please help me to solve this problem.

thanks a lot

My email address:

mehshakery@yahoo.com

Determine Solid Friction Factor For Cement

Posted on 22. Feb. 2009 - 09:51

hi every body,

i want to determine pressure drop in pneumatic conveyor for transport cement material with this specification:

Solids Conveying Rate (W): 120 ton/h

Pipeline characteristic: 42 m Vertical with 365 mm diameter and 9 m Horizontal with 350 mm diameter

Gas Temperature (T): 80 C

Gas velocity at inlet of conveying system (Vg): 16 m/s

Pipe line Roughness Factor: 0.0005

maximum gauge pressure of conveyer: 0.45 bar

altitude above sea level (m): 1581 m

but i dont have K (Solids Friction Factor) for cement.

please help me to solve this problem.

thanks a lot

My email address:

mehshakery@yahoo.com

Dense Phase Conveying Of Calcium Carbonate.

Posted on 23. Feb. 2009 - 11:52

Can it be conveyed in dense phase in a conventional way?

Dense Phase Conveying Of Calcium Carbonate.

Posted on 23. Feb. 2009 - 11:52

Can it be conveyed in dense phase in a conventional way?

Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 23. Feb. 2009 - 12:23

Dear Moosadarya,

Calcium Carbonate can be conveyed pneumatically.

Whether it will be in dense phase or dilute phase depends on the definition of the two conveying regimes.Search this forum for this subject.

best regards

Teus

Teus

Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 23. Feb. 2009 - 12:23

Dear Moosadarya,

Calcium Carbonate can be conveyed pneumatically.

Whether it will be in dense phase or dilute phase depends on the definition of the two conveying regimes.Search this forum for this subject.

best regards

Teus

Teus

Theory And Design Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveyor System

Posted on 11. Mar. 2009 - 09:52

Dear Mr Amrit,

Can i have a copy of your calculation sheet in excel send to my email, cdseng@gmail.com? I am currently working on the design of a pneumatic conveyor (vacuum blower type) for potassium permanganate in flake form with a bulk density of 1600 kg/m3.

Jeff Ng

Technical Manager,

CDS Engineering Sdn Bhd

Theory And Design Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveyor System

Posted on 11. Mar. 2009 - 09:52

Dear Mr Amrit,

Can i have a copy of your calculation sheet in excel send to my email, cdseng@gmail.com? I am currently working on the design of a pneumatic conveyor (vacuum blower type) for potassium permanganate in flake form with a bulk density of 1600 kg/m3.

Jeff Ng

Technical Manager,

CDS Engineering Sdn Bhd

Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 18. Mar. 2009 - 07:11

Dear Amrit,

Thank you for sending be your article "Theroy and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems". It is very well written and I would definately recommend it to anyone involved in designing these types of systems.

I was also wondering if you would have any information on the design of Dense Phase systems.

Thanks,

Scott

Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 18. Mar. 2009 - 07:11

Dear Amrit,

Thank you for sending be your article "Theroy and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems". It is very well written and I would definately recommend it to anyone involved in designing these types of systems.

I was also wondering if you would have any information on the design of Dense Phase systems.

Thanks,

Scott

ankita
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Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 19. Mar. 2009 - 03:15

Dear Amrit,

Can u send me a copy. My email is ankitamandal50@yahoo.co.in

Ankita

ankita
(not verified)

Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 19. Mar. 2009 - 03:15

Dear Amrit,

Can u send me a copy. My email is ankitamandal50@yahoo.co.in

Ankita

Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 19. Mar. 2009 - 03:11

Dear Amrit,

many thanks for thread. Your thread is far more visited here in this section of the Forum.

Article I found is very useful.

Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 19. Mar. 2009 - 03:11

Dear Amrit,

many thanks for thread. Your thread is far more visited here in this section of the Forum.

Article I found is very useful.

JimBl
(not verified)

Article Request

Posted on 20. Mar. 2009 - 09:59

Mr. Agarwal - would you please forward a copy of the "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems" article to my email at jim.black@worleyparsons.com including the ExCel spreadsheet for calculations?

JimBl
(not verified)

Article Request

Posted on 20. Mar. 2009 - 09:59

Mr. Agarwal - would you please forward a copy of the "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems" article to my email at jim.black@worleyparsons.com including the ExCel spreadsheet for calculations?

Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 23. Mar. 2009 - 02:27

Dear Mr. Amrit Agarwal,

Thank you very much for sending the article: "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase

Pneumatic Conveying Systems".

It was what I need to understand basics of design and an excellent tool to perform the calculations at my own.

Thank you very much for your time.

Sincerely,

Kendea Vasilis

Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 23. Mar. 2009 - 02:27

Dear Mr. Amrit Agarwal,

Thank you very much for sending the article: "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase

Pneumatic Conveying Systems".

It was what I need to understand basics of design and an excellent tool to perform the calculations at my own.

Thank you very much for your time.

Sincerely,

Kendea Vasilis

Pneumatic Conveying Systems

Posted on 27. Mar. 2009 - 10:53

Dear Amrit,

Thanks for send me a copy of your article. I was reading it and it's an excellent help in the design of pneumatic conveying systems, the article is easy to understand and very useful.

Cenk BÜYÜKCAN

Pneumatic Conveying Systems

Posted on 27. Mar. 2009 - 10:53

Dear Amrit,

Thanks for send me a copy of your article. I was reading it and it's an excellent help in the design of pneumatic conveying systems, the article is easy to understand and very useful.

Cenk BÜYÜKCAN

muratall
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Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 28. Mar. 2009 - 10:09

dear all

could you send me that sheet please.

e-mail to : muratall01@mynet.com

muratall
(not verified)

Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 28. Mar. 2009 - 10:09

dear all

could you send me that sheet please.

e-mail to : muratall01@mynet.com

Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 31. Mar. 2009 - 09:41
Quote Originally Posted by Amrit AgarwalView Post
My article "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems" was published this month in Powder Handling and Processing magazine. This article gives an easy to use Excel-based calculation method for designing new dilute phase pneumatic conveying systems or for improving the performance of existing conveying systems.

Regards,

Amrit T. Agarwal

Consulting Engineer

Pneumatic Conveying Consulting Services

Email: polypcc@aol.com

Ph and Fax: 304 346 5125

Can you please email the copy for the excel calculations of the same. hifzus@gmail.com

Regards,

Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 31. Mar. 2009 - 09:41
Quote Originally Posted by Amrit AgarwalView Post
My article "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems" was published this month in Powder Handling and Processing magazine. This article gives an easy to use Excel-based calculation method for designing new dilute phase pneumatic conveying systems or for improving the performance of existing conveying systems.

Regards,

Amrit T. Agarwal

Consulting Engineer

Pneumatic Conveying Consulting Services

Email: polypcc@aol.com

Ph and Fax: 304 346 5125

Can you please email the copy for the excel calculations of the same. hifzus@gmail.com

Regards,

Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 2. Apr. 2009 - 05:08

Dear Amrit,

Thank you for sending me the article on "Theory and design of dilute phase pneumatic conveying systems". I found it very good & very practical for calculations. Now I have composed my own calculation sheet with some problems but I will get through.

sumant

Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 2. Apr. 2009 - 05:08

Dear Amrit,

Thank you for sending me the article on "Theory and design of dilute phase pneumatic conveying systems". I found it very good & very practical for calculations. Now I have composed my own calculation sheet with some problems but I will get through.

sumant

stijn gommers
(not verified)

Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 3. Apr. 2009 - 10:39

Dear Amrit

Thank you for sending me a copy of your article. Your calculations were a good control of the calculations i already had.

Thanks

Stijn Gommers

stijn gommers
(not verified)

Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 3. Apr. 2009 - 10:39

Dear Amrit

Thank you for sending me a copy of your article. Your calculations were a good control of the calculations i already had.

Thanks

Stijn Gommers

Pneumatic Conveying Design

Posted on 7. Apr. 2009 - 08:48

Dear Mr. Amrit,

I have a problem in pneumatic conveying of cocoa beans. The details as follows

Material: cocoa beans

Blower capacity: 1700m3/h

Required output: 1500 kg/h,

Pipeline bore diamter: 4 inch (100 mm)

The problem is that, i cannot get the required output, hence if could help me in sorting this problem, I will be very thankful to you. I have already requested your article through mail. Also i like to remind you in this forum also.

Again i will be engaged in designing the pneumatic conveying system for milk powder, Hence if could sent me the article and related information, i will be grateful to you.

Thanks and regards,

Navneeth,

Process Engineer,

ISF Industries Private Limited, India

http://www.isfindustries.com/

Pneumatic Conveying Design

Posted on 7. Apr. 2009 - 08:48

Dear Mr. Amrit,

I have a problem in pneumatic conveying of cocoa beans. The details as follows

Material: cocoa beans

Blower capacity: 1700m3/h

Required output: 1500 kg/h,

Pipeline bore diamter: 4 inch (100 mm)

The problem is that, i cannot get the required output, hence if could help me in sorting this problem, I will be very thankful to you. I have already requested your article through mail. Also i like to remind you in this forum also.

Again i will be engaged in designing the pneumatic conveying system for milk powder, Hence if could sent me the article and related information, i will be grateful to you.

Thanks and regards,

Navneeth,

Process Engineer,

ISF Industries Private Limited, India

http://www.isfindustries.com/

Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 7. Apr. 2009 - 09:45

Dear Navneeth,

A blower capacity of 1700 m3/hr # 1700/3600 = 0.472 m3/sec

A 4”pipeline has a cross sectional area of 0.010261 m2

Resulting in a gas velocity of 0.472/0.010261 = 46 m/sec.

The Solid Loading Ratio (SLR), according to your information = 1500 / (1700*1.2) = 0.735

This is a very low SLR and indicates a very inefficient system.

The pressure drop for product losses is therefore very low and almost the total pressure drop is spent on air related losses.

Cocoa beans are very vulnerable and will be damaged by this very high velocity.

Are you using a centrifugal fan or a positive displacement air pump?

Is it a vacuum- or a pressure system?

How long is the horizontal conveying length?

How long is the vertical conveying length?

How many bends?

What is the cocoa beans size?

What is the cocoa bean density?

Designing a pneumatic conveying system for milk powder should be done by experienced suppliers, because it is “food grade” and explosive.

The advice is: not to learn while building.

Best regards

Teus

Teus

Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 7. Apr. 2009 - 09:45

Dear Navneeth,

A blower capacity of 1700 m3/hr # 1700/3600 = 0.472 m3/sec

A 4”pipeline has a cross sectional area of 0.010261 m2

Resulting in a gas velocity of 0.472/0.010261 = 46 m/sec.

The Solid Loading Ratio (SLR), according to your information = 1500 / (1700*1.2) = 0.735

This is a very low SLR and indicates a very inefficient system.

The pressure drop for product losses is therefore very low and almost the total pressure drop is spent on air related losses.

Cocoa beans are very vulnerable and will be damaged by this very high velocity.

Are you using a centrifugal fan or a positive displacement air pump?

Is it a vacuum- or a pressure system?

How long is the horizontal conveying length?

How long is the vertical conveying length?

How many bends?

What is the cocoa beans size?

What is the cocoa bean density?

Designing a pneumatic conveying system for milk powder should be done by experienced suppliers, because it is “food grade” and explosive.

The advice is: not to learn while building.

Best regards

Teus

Teus

Pneumatic Conveying Design

Posted on 8. Apr. 2009 - 05:27

Dear Teus,

Thank you for your advice and valuable reply.

The details as requested in the forum as follows,

Fan: Centrigual Fan

System: Pressure system

Horizontal distance: 6 m

Vertical distance: 8 m

No. of bends: 4 (long radisu bend)

Particle size: approx. 10mm x 10 mm

Particle density: 540 kg/m3

Please revert back with your valuable advice.

I also like to learn this system design as a few systems are approaching.

Thanks and regards

Navneeth

Pneumatic Conveying Design

Posted on 8. Apr. 2009 - 05:27

Dear Teus,

Thank you for your advice and valuable reply.

The details as requested in the forum as follows,

Fan: Centrigual Fan

System: Pressure system

Horizontal distance: 6 m

Vertical distance: 8 m

No. of bends: 4 (long radisu bend)

Particle size: approx. 10mm x 10 mm

Particle density: 540 kg/m3

Please revert back with your valuable advice.

I also like to learn this system design as a few systems are approaching.

Thanks and regards

Navneeth

Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 8. Apr. 2009 - 07:32

Mr. Agarwal - would you please forward a copy of the "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems" article to my email at pommy.malik@gmail.com including the ExCel spreadsheet for calculations?

I have read a lot of appreciation for your Article.

Best regards

Malik

Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 8. Apr. 2009 - 07:32

Mr. Agarwal - would you please forward a copy of the "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems" article to my email at pommy.malik@gmail.com including the ExCel spreadsheet for calculations?

I have read a lot of appreciation for your Article.

Best regards

Malik

Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 8. Apr. 2009 - 09:33

Dear Navneeth,

Using a centrifugal fan in a pneumatic conveying system is asking for problems.

This is, because the air mass flow decreases with increasing pressure.

A blocked system is then the result.

As you have a “working” system, you can perform the following.

Obtain the fan curve from the supplier’s datasheet.

Measure the fan delivery pressure with an empty pipeline system.

Locate on the fan volume/pressure curve the airflow.

Then repeat this measurement for systematically increased feeding rates and find the point, where pneumatic conveying is stopped.

This exercise will reveal the function of your system.

Success

Teus

Teus

Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 8. Apr. 2009 - 09:33

Dear Navneeth,

Using a centrifugal fan in a pneumatic conveying system is asking for problems.

This is, because the air mass flow decreases with increasing pressure.

A blocked system is then the result.

As you have a “working” system, you can perform the following.

Obtain the fan curve from the supplier’s datasheet.

Measure the fan delivery pressure with an empty pipeline system.

Locate on the fan volume/pressure curve the airflow.

Then repeat this measurement for systematically increased feeding rates and find the point, where pneumatic conveying is stopped.

This exercise will reveal the function of your system.

Success

Teus

Teus

Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 8. Apr. 2009 - 02:44

Dear Navneeth,

As Teus rightly pointed using fans in pneumatic conveying system is asking for problems.

Centrifugal fans are very sensitive to any variation in pressure and the volume delivered will vary across a wide range. The Blower capacity you mentioned 1700 m3 / hr is perhaps the flow at no load condition.

If you have the blower curve find a range of minimum slope on the curve, and adjust your feed rate so that the system operates within the range.

It is necessary to have controlled and steady feeding to achieve a consistent performance from the system.

Best luck with your system.

Regards,

Vikas Gaikwad

Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 8. Apr. 2009 - 02:44

Dear Navneeth,

As Teus rightly pointed using fans in pneumatic conveying system is asking for problems.

Centrifugal fans are very sensitive to any variation in pressure and the volume delivered will vary across a wide range. The Blower capacity you mentioned 1700 m3 / hr is perhaps the flow at no load condition.

If you have the blower curve find a range of minimum slope on the curve, and adjust your feed rate so that the system operates within the range.

It is necessary to have controlled and steady feeding to achieve a consistent performance from the system.

Best luck with your system.

Regards,

Vikas Gaikwad

Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 9. Apr. 2009 - 06:47

Dear Teus and Vikas,

Thank you very much for your valuable advice.

I will follow the same you have advised me.

After reading the reply, i am now in to a new query,

How to select the blower system for the required process.

If not centrifugal is the correct blower to select, how to specifically select blower for the process. Also which blower type is widely used and successful for most of the applicaiton.

Please kindly advice.

Thank asnd regards

Navneeth

Re: Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 9. Apr. 2009 - 06:47

Dear Teus and Vikas,

Thank you very much for your valuable advice.

I will follow the same you have advised me.

After reading the reply, i am now in to a new query,

How to select the blower system for the required process.

If not centrifugal is the correct blower to select, how to specifically select blower for the process. Also which blower type is widely used and successful for most of the applicaiton.

Please kindly advice.

Thank asnd regards

Navneeth