Pneumatic Conveying Theory
Dear Ranadheer,
There are quite a few books that give the basic theory of pneumatic conveying. Ones I like most are:
1. Pneumatic Conveying of Solids, by Marcus, Leung, Klinzing, and Rizk.
2. Pneumatic Conveying, by Stoess,
3. Pneumatic Conveying Design Guide, by David Mills
4. Plastics Pneumatic Conveying and Bulk Storage, by Butters.
For beginners like you, perhaps the book by Stoess should be good enough.
Regards,
Amrit Agarwal
Consulting Engineer
Pneumatic Conveying Consulting
Email: polypcc@aol.com
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Dear Mr.Armit,
Thanks for your information on Theory books also.
As suggested I will try to get the book by Stoess on the subject.
K.Ranadheer
Asian Paints Ltd.,
Chennai, India. ■
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Dear Mr. Agarwal:
I've been studying your article, and I've a few questions for you if you don't mind...
First of all I'd like to remind you I'm working with malt barley powder, in a vacuum conveying system.. now here are a few questions:
- Currently there's no record in plant of how much is the solids mass flow rate, how would you recomend to estimate this amount? The system configuration it's a lot more complicated than the one that was as an example on the article, the configuration installed here has many diameter variations during its route.
- Also this is a new study about this system so I'm also needing information regarding the gas velocity at the inlet of the system, so any articles or information about that would be great too.
- The system has many atmospheric air intakes during its route to help the vacuum system, how should those intakes be considered like? Should all of them be cosidered as one? I'm a little confused with that subject.
- And finally, there're also many other accesories in the system that are not figured on the article you sent, as Y's, caissons(atm. air intakes), Tees, etc. Any chance of you having any info on equivalent lenght of those? Or is it any other way this accesories should be treated like?
I know this a lot, but any help I can get on these matters will be very much apreciatted, if u rather send the info or any documents or articles to my mail it'd be also great.
Many many Thanks,
Jose Quiroz
josenestor7@gmail.com ■
Answers To Questions
Dear Jose,
The article "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems" can be easily used to simulate your conveying system for running the calculations. I will be glad to help you by answering your above questions. For this please send your request by an email to me at my address given below.
Regards,
Amrit Agarwal
Consulting Engineer
Pneumatic Conveying Consulting
Email: polypcc@aol.com
Ph and Fax: 304 346 5125 ■
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hello... mr agrawal...can i have a copy of excel sheet and the paper please...
mail id is engmanpreet@gmail.com
many thanks ■
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Dear Mr. Agarwal:
I sent you an email with my request a couple of days ago so, I'll be checking my mail every once in a while..
Thanks again...
Jose Quiroz
josenestor7@gmail.com ■
Reply -Calculation Sheet(Attached)
Reply -calculation sheet
Thank you very much for your prompt replies.
Kindly go thro the attached calculation sheets & post your valuable comments.We are in position to suggest 0.75kw motor capacity.
Thanks
With Regards,
Vidyaprakash
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Interested In Getting Initial Calculations
I am planning to have a pneumatic conveying system. For that i am interested to have details of basic calculations i.e. with my required capacities and distance what will be the air requirement and power requirements etc. so that i can have cost benifit analysis and go further in detailed designing of the system.
Can I have such initial calculation sheet. May be mailed at
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Calculations
Could you send the calculation excel to me ?? cihaddemirel@hotmail.com
Regards
Cihad Demirel
Mechanical Engineer
stanbul / Turkey ■
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Dear Amrit
may I have a pdf copy of your article
" Theory and Design of Pneumatic Conveying Systems" as published in the April 2005 issue of Powder Handling Magazine.?
and could you kindly forward your excel files to my e-mail
[email]poenono@hotmail.com
thank you very much!
Best regards ■
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Dear Amrit
Can you send me a pdf copy of your article " Theory and Design of Pneumatic Conveying Systems" as published in the April 2005 issue of Powder Handling Magazine.?
and could you kindly forward your excel files to my e-mail
cihaddemirel@hotmail.com
thank you very much!
Best regards
Cihad Demirel ■
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has anyone heard of Mr Agarwal again? I've been waiting for an email response for almost 3 weeks now... does anyone know if he's on vacations or anything like that? any chances of coming back soon? ■
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i'm waiting too i think we cant take this articles ... ■
Pneumatic Conveying Calculations
Dear Amrit,
Many thanks for the article which has proved most interesting and helpful. ■
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Dear Mr. Agarwal:
I wanted to know if you got my email about the questions posted above a couple of weeks ago, if you could help me with those I'd really thank you.
If you didn't get the email, I'd like to know so I could sent it again. Anyway I hope I'm not being too much trouble, I just wanted to be clear with everything so I can start my calculations.
Thanks again.
Jose Quiroz
josenestor7@gmail.com ■
Problem In Calculating P.drop Due To Solids Acceleration.
Dear Mr. Agarwal and other users of the forum,
After reading Mr. Agarwal's article,"Theory and design of dilute phase pneumatic conveying systems", it really helped me understand quite a lot. I even tried out to generate the excel sheet for better understanding. However, i encountered a problem and i cannot solve it.
The calculation of the solids acceleration for section no. 2 and after, for my case are still very large.
I understand that section 2 onwards, acceleration is not a big issue, thus, p.drop value becomes lower,
But how do i get the trend similar to the appendix 3 of the article? which has high pressure drop due to solids acceleration in the 1st section and low values thereafter?
As the formula is (W.Vp)/g, the only changing parameter is Vp right? In this case, does Vp change so much such that to cause the distinct difference in p.drop?
For section no. 2, do we enter the same formula as in section no.1? If yes, we'll get approximately the same p.drop values right?
Regards and thanks in advance
Matthew ■
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Dear Mr. Amrit Agarwal,
would you please send me your related article which are useful for designing bagfilter and rotary airlock.
Best Regards
Masoomeh Amin
amin@momtazan.com ■
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I am working on pulverized coal conveying design, and I want to calculate the consumption of conveying gas (Nitrogen).
Could anyone please send me the articles "Design of dilute phaase pneumatic conveying lines" and "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems" and
calculations(excel sheet)
My Email joe927@hotmail.com
Thanks a lot! ■
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Mr Amrit Agarwal
if it is possible can u Send the article (excel files ) to me also i am new in this world of pneumatic transport
Best regards
Thks
Larke@mail.telepac.pt ■
Article On Pneumatic Conveying Calculations
Paulo,
Please send your request to my email address given below.
Regards,
Amrit
Amrit Agarwal
Consulting Engineer
Pneumatic Conveying Consulting
email: polypcc@aol.com
Ph and Fax: 304 346 5125 ■
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excuse me mr. agarwal, have you read the mail i sent you about a moth ago or so about my doubts? any chance you could answer it? ill resend the email if necessary... ■
Paper Trim Conveying Fan System
Attention: Mr. Amrit Agarwal / Consulting Engineer / Pneumatic Conveying Consulting
Dear Amrit
Regarding your article about pneumatic conveying, published in Powder Handling and Processing magazine in April 2005 issue, Could you send me a copy by e-mail?
Thats information will help me to review our rewinder paper trim handling conveying fan system. Do you have some recommendations to be use in paper trim conveying design?
Thank you for your answers
Best regards ■
Pneumatic Conveyor Design
Dear Amrit,
May I have a copy of the article "" Theory and Design of Pneumatic Conveying Systems" published in the April 2005 issue of Powder Handling Magazine.?
Could you also send the Excel file to my below mentioned Email address ?
Regards,
Mohanvishnu ■
Article On Pneumatic Conveying Calculations
Folks,
I will be glad to send a copy of this article. Please send your request to my email address given below.
Regards,
Amrit Agarwal
Consulting Engineer
Pneumatic Conveying Consulting
Email: polypcc@aol.com
Ph and Fax: 304 346 5125 ■
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I'd like to thank mr. agarwal for dedicating his time to respond to my questions. His answers were very useful to take the necesary considerations. ■
Calculation Question With Regards To Article By Amrit Agarwal
Hi all,
thanks foremost to Amrit Agarwal for sending me the fine article
I got down to programming my EXCEL to run the spreadsheet as explains in his article, but i can't seem to replicate the results. =(
For example, it is written that to calculate Solids acceleration, to use the formula,
Solids acc = [[W.Vp]/4640], whereby W is Solid line loading and Vp is velocity of solids.
At the beginning of the transfer, i am able to see/understand the higher value due to acceleration of solids from zero to 80% gas velocity, but how about after that, Solids acc will contine to increase due to increase in velocity.
But in the spreadsheet in the article, cell C2 results of 0.372 reduces to 0.006. how so if Solids acc = [[W.Vp]/4640], and Vp is increasing? Am i missing out something?
My question is how does the spreadsheet take into account the beginning of the transfer whereby the pressure drop is high due to acceleration of particles, and lower when travelling along a horizontal pipe. Also how the formula takes into account entering and exiting a bend. Since outlet gas velocity is ever-increasing in the spreadsheet. [I assume, solid velocity is 80% of gas velocity].
I would like to attached my spreadsheet that is modelling after the article, but am wondering if it is okay with Amrit Agarwal.
Has anyone done a calculation using the same spreadsheet, and wouldn't mind sharing it with me? you can email me the spreadsheet to
thank you......
Calculation Result
ABS , 8000kg/h, dilute phase
injector->4"X5m(H)->10D(H)->12m(H)->10D(H)->20m(H)->10D(HV)->6m(V)->10D(VH)->10m(H)->10D(HV)->10m(V)->10D(VH)->5"20m(H)->10D(HV)->10m(V)->40m(H)
pick up velocity 19m/s
My calculation is 70KPa.
matches your calculation? ■
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Dear Dr. Amrit Agarwal,
I am interested to have copies of your valued articles, "Product quality in pneumatic conveying", "Design Guide for Dust Collectors" and "Improving Rotary Valve Performance" . I am sure these articles would to be very very useful for all of us working in the relevant field. Expecting these copies at my email, "starselvan@yahoo.com".
Regards,
S.T.Selvam
India. ■
Pneumatic Conveying Articles
Dear Mr. Selvan,
To get these articles please send your request to my email address given below.
Regards,
Amrit Agarwal
Coonsulting Engineer
Pneumatic Conveying Consulting
Email: polypcc@aol.com
Ph and Fax: 304 346 5125 ■
Pneumatic Conveying Article
Dear Amrit,
Thanks for sharing your article "Theory and Design of Dilute phase Pneumatic coveying syste." It realy helped understanding the design part.
Thanks again,
Best regards,
Ritesh S Gupta ■
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I have reviewed the paper "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying System" by Amrit and found it to be a clear introduction to the theory.
Regards,
Lyle ■
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Dear Mr. Agarwal:
Thank you very much for your article. It is very comprehensive and will be of great help to me.
Steven Quon ■
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Dear Mr. Agarwal:
I would like to thank you a lot for your copy of the "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems". It will help me a lot in the current project we are developing.
So now I will be able to check and confirm the different conveying system we have.
Best regards,
JAHH ■
Thanks To Mr Amrit
Thanks Mr. Amrit your article is very useful. This article, makes us understand the Fundamental concepts, definitions, and equations used in the pneumatic systems
Best regards ■
Suleyman Salihler, Polimak Ltd., www.polimak.com
Thanks To Amrit Agarwal
I received "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase
Pneumatic Conveying Systems" and it is quite good. Many thanks to Armit for the article. I am trying to replicate the sample in Excel. Once I have that done, I can modify it for my own system. ■
Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems
I found the article written by Amrit T. Agarwal very useful and I really don't know how to thank ■
Theory And Design Of Pneumatic Converying Systems
I just got the article " Theory and design of dilute phase pneumatic conveying systems" from Mr. A.T. Agarwal. It is a very useful for pneumatic convery system design.
Thank you! A.T. Agarwal
Mark ■
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I just received the article from Dr. Armit Agarwal: "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems". It is very complete and usefull.
Thank you M. Agriwal.
Gerard Gionet ■
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I am new to pnuematic systems of all kinds and Mr. Agarwal's article helped tremendously in my understanding of these systems. ■
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Could some one email me the article. I have emailed Armit but received no reply.
your assistance is appreciated.
sami.ahmed@promet.com.au ■
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Mr. Agarwal,
Thank you for your article "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems". The procedure described in the article allowed me to model and better understand our pneumatic transfer system. It has identified some opportunities to reduce product breakage and energy consumption.
Kurt Dyck ■
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I have reviewed Amrit Agarwal's article on pneumatic conveying. It clearly and logically defines the steps required to design a pneumatic conveying system.
The article summarised my understanding of pneumatic conveying systems.
If people are interested I found the book "Handling of Bulk solids - Theory & Practice" by P.A Shamlou also very helpful. The design steps are similar to Amrit's. ■
Pneumatic Conveying Calculations
Amrit Agarwal sir,
Thanks for the article you sent me on "Dilute phas pneumatic conveying calculations". The article gives very elaborate explanation about basic factors influencing penumatic conveying calculations and there inter relation ship. Spread sheet calculations clarifies it further.
Once again thanks for your help. Sir, can you also sent me other three articles written by you?
Regards,
Murugan Elumalai ■
Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Article
Dear Amrit,
Thankyou for sending me your article on lean phase conveying, this helped me to understand the fundamentals and will assist me with the design of powder handling system. No doubt that I will be refering to it regularly in the future. Thankyou once again! ■
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Dear Armit,
Many thanks to you for your professional paper.
I think it would really help everyone who want a total solution for pneumatic calculation!
Thank you again!
Zhifeng Guo ■
Pneumatic Conveying Calculations
Dear Mr. Agarwal,
I have just received your copy of article regarding "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems". It is absolutely helpful for the people who interest to learn and to upgrade their know-how in pneumatic conveying (dilute phase system).
Many thanks and waiting for your next article.
Best regards,
Leo ■
Pneumatic Calculation & Question
Dear Mr. Agarwal,
Many thanks for your article about "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems". It is very useful for my project and the layout is easy to follow.
I am really looking forward for the publication of your article about dense phase conveying.
NB> Could you please let me know if it is better to convey aluminium waste/chips in dense or dilute phase and what is the critical specs for aluminium? I'm going to make use of a vacuum system to convey the chips from the different CNC cells in the Aluminium Wheel Manufacturing facility. Do you know of any pneumatic cost programme?
Many thanks for the special article and help. ■
Conveying Calculation
Dear Amrit :
En this moments we are preparing conveying system for powder cement transport, in San Rafael Mine - Per. Could you please send me an electronic copy of the excel program " Theory and Design of dilute Phase Pneumatic conveying Systems", I'am looking for this program but I havent found.
Thanks you
Best regards,
Miguel Nez Celi
e-mail : mnunez@minsur.com.pe ■
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Dear sir Agarwal,
I am last year student of the GroepT Engineering School. I'm currently working on a study of pneumatic conveying sytems (year project) and I think your article could be very useful as resource.
Could you please send me your article on "Design of dilute phase pneumatic conveying lines" and maybe also the Excel sheet to johan.smeetsATstudent.groept.be (replace the AT with an actual @).
Thanks in advance,
Sincerely yours,
Johan Smeets ■
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Please send your request to my email address given above.
Regards,
Amrit Agarwal ■
New Articles
My article "Product Quality in Pneumatic Conveying was published in Chemical Engineering in its November 2004 issue.
My article "Design Guide for Dust Collectors" was published in Chemical Engineering's February 2005 issue.
My article "Improving Rotary Valve Performance" is being published in the March 2005 issue of Chemical Engineering.
Let me know if you need copies.
Regards,
A. T. Agarwal
Consulting Engineer
Pneumatic Conveying Consulting
Email: polypcc@aol.com
Ph and Fax: 304 346 5125 ■