Huck Bolt Theory And/Or Principal

Posted on 7. Oct. 2005 - 03:47

Hi Sandeep:

Here we go, On vibrating screens it is very very important or critical to maintain as much uniform tension in all fasteners holding the screen box together. Huck fasteners originated in the aircraft industry and used their for assured fastening torque values.

Vibrating screen companies like to us HUCK BOLTS for the following reasons:

1. Matched torque values of all hardware on machine

2. Nice tight assembly, running as one vs many different rpms

3. HUCK BOLTS stay TIGHT, they do not back off which at the end of the day is the reason sideplates will crack (movement)

4. Automatic assembly process, no torque wrenches needed

Basically, the gun kinda looks like a Black & Decker drill gun with a special attachment that walks the huck nut up the threads and automatically tightens right up to the sideplate and then automatically snaps off the threaded extension. DONE.

To remove, a single tooth drill attachment is put on the huck nut (white metal) and BITES the nut and splits it off. A new nut and bolt then can be re-inserted. NOTE: if no huck equipment is available in the field - people just use normal grade 5 hardware in lieu of huck bolts.

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standard hardware: In the good ole days, manufacturers would drill TIGHT TOLERANCE REAM FIT HOLES into sideplates. Then, hammer in tight tolerance FINE THREAD GRADE 5 bolts then nut them or double nut them, to try to keep tight.

Today, most companies do not ream fit or use FINE THREAD hardware. Too costly. Basically use coarse thread grade 5 hardware and tighten to industry standard torque value for this spec of bolt.

Using a TORQUE WRENCH to identify the proper torque value would be highly recommended for every bolt put in ...LOTS.

REALITY: People DO NOT USE TORQUE WRENCH, tighten up to VERY TIGHT? and finished.

We end up with UNEVEN torque values all over and this leads to more movement of the sideplates and can lead eventually to cracked sideplate sooner than HUCk system. Lets imagine, 2 people installing and tightening all these bolts. One guy 225 lbs and thee other 180 lbs, no torque wrench, we will have very uneven torque values. When they get tired, still more torque value variances, etc.

The bolts move, oval shape the holes and the more they move the more likely they will BREAK OFF. Not a good thing for Mr. Vibrating screen box to live a long, prosperous life.

HUCK BOLT SYSTEMS are widely used for vibrating screens and widely accepted. You will find many companies that still use standard hardware - personal pref and moderately cheaper.

hope this helps........

Best Regards, George Baker Regional Sales Manager - Canada TELSMITH Inc Mequon, WI 1-519-242-6664 Cell E: (work) [email]gbaker@telsmith.com[/email] E: (home) [email] gggman353@gmail.com[/email] website: [url]www.telsmith.com[/url] Manufacturer of portable, modular and stationary mineral processing equipment for the aggregate and mining industries.

Pic Of Huck Assemblies

Posted on 7. Oct. 2005 - 04:18

easy install, fast

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closeup huck bolts (ZIP)

Best Regards, George Baker Regional Sales Manager - Canada TELSMITH Inc Mequon, WI 1-519-242-6664 Cell E: (work) [email]gbaker@telsmith.com[/email] E: (home) [email] gggman353@gmail.com[/email] website: [url]www.telsmith.com[/url] Manufacturer of portable, modular and stationary mineral processing equipment for the aggregate and mining industries.

Pic Of Standard Bolt Arrangement

Posted on 7. Oct. 2005 - 04:49

standard bolt arrangement GRADE 5

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typical bolt torque vaule (ZIP)

Best Regards, George Baker Regional Sales Manager - Canada TELSMITH Inc Mequon, WI 1-519-242-6664 Cell E: (work) [email]gbaker@telsmith.com[/email] E: (home) [email] gggman353@gmail.com[/email] website: [url]www.telsmith.com[/url] Manufacturer of portable, modular and stationary mineral processing equipment for the aggregate and mining industries.
BobOstlund
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Re: Huck Bolting.. The Best Or Second Best

Posted on 25. Oct. 2005 - 12:04

I was wondering how huck bolts compare to grade 8 hardware. In applications that are important and/or subject to heavy vibration, we put in (and actually torque) grade 8 coarse thread bolts with hard flat washers. The bolts are then retorqued daily (usually a couple of days) until they stay at torque. The nuts are then tack welded to the bolts. I've thought that the retorquing lets the irregularities in the clamped surfaces lap themselves together.

On disassembly (with a grinder) most of the hardware can be saved and reused.

Good luck, Bob Ostlund

Huck Vs Grade 8

Posted on 25. Oct. 2005 - 05:27

Your technicques described for the coarse grade 8 is actually quite correct. Reality on vibrating screens is.........install new hardware, torque up, run machine for full shift....retorque due to loosening off with vibrating movement. Next day, again usually til torque stays same.

Welding is a sure STOP LOCK EFFECT.

I disagree at all times with reusing hardware at any time. The older gentleman that taught me was strict about this point. DO NOT REUSE old hardware....believed that stretching and abuse occurs and should always start new with all new hardware.

HUCK bolts go in once, automatically rachet up to FIX TORQUE VALUE....DONE. no retorque recommended or even possible.

Thankyou for the imput......excellent information.

George Baker

Best Regards, George Baker Regional Sales Manager - Canada TELSMITH Inc Mequon, WI 1-519-242-6664 Cell E: (work) [email]gbaker@telsmith.com[/email] E: (home) [email] gggman353@gmail.com[/email] website: [url]www.telsmith.com[/url] Manufacturer of portable, modular and stationary mineral processing equipment for the aggregate and mining industries.

Re: Huck Bolting.. The Best Or Second Best

Posted on 14. Jan. 2008 - 08:22

Is it right that both the retorque method and huck bolt workes in fastening the vibrating screen box?

Is the retorque method more cheaper?

Retorque Method?

Posted on 16. Jan. 2008 - 04:30

what do you mean by this?

Best Regards, George Baker Regional Sales Manager - Canada TELSMITH Inc Mequon, WI 1-519-242-6664 Cell E: (work) [email]gbaker@telsmith.com[/email] E: (home) [email] gggman353@gmail.com[/email] website: [url]www.telsmith.com[/url] Manufacturer of portable, modular and stationary mineral processing equipment for the aggregate and mining industries.

Re: Huck Bolting.. The Best Or Second Best

Posted on 16. Jan. 2008 - 04:44

I know most of screen use huck bolts to fasten the screen box.

And I see in this post that there is another way in real application, that is to ¡ install new hardware, torque up, run machine for full shift, retorque, tack weld the nut to the bolt ¡.

I want to know if both method to fasten the screen box is ok, and which one is the cheaper solution.

Re: Huck Bolting.. The Best Or Second Best

Posted on 16. Jan. 2008 - 06:04

How cheap is cheap?

Huck bolts were derided by a bloke I worked for in South Africa who made heavy trucks. Reaming, shrunk-in bolts were all the rage back then, with Peterbilt & Kenworth fanatics. The chassis makes that have survived in any numbers come from Scandinavia & they are all Huck bolted together.

John Gateley johngateley@hotmail.com www.the-credible-bulk.com

Retorque Method

Posted on 3. Sep. 2008 - 09:11

retightening bolted hardware after a day of working under vibrating conditions if a common procedure and recommendation by most vib screen mfrs.

the tack welding into place......NOT so much. We discourage with a vengence any form of heat applied to the sideplate at all....to avoid cracks resulting from heat checks made at time of tack welding.

MY old buddy 73 was a stauch proponent of this.

Best Regards, George Baker Regional Sales Manager - Canada TELSMITH Inc Mequon, WI 1-519-242-6664 Cell E: (work) [email]gbaker@telsmith.com[/email] E: (home) [email] gggman353@gmail.com[/email] website: [url]www.telsmith.com[/url] Manufacturer of portable, modular and stationary mineral processing equipment for the aggregate and mining industries.