Design Calculation for Pneumatic Conveying

Posted in: , on 20. Sep. 2005 - 10:38

I am on the look out for system design calculation for lean phase and dense phase pneumatic conveing system with specific interest for PFA. One I could locate is Pneumatic conveying Consultant. May I request the forum to help in knowing others.

System Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 20. Sep. 2005 - 05:41

If you know basic Excel, you can use my calculation method published in Powder Handling and Processing magazine in its April 2005 issue. This article gives the theory and all of the equations that are internally used in computer programs. It takes the mystery out of the computer programs. I can send a free PDF copy if you need one.

Regards,

Amrit T. Agarwal

Consulting Engineer

Pneumatic Conveying Consulting Services

Email: polypcc@aol.com

Ph and Fax: 304 346 5125

Titan
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Re: Design Calculation For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 28. Sep. 2005 - 02:07

Thanks Mr. Amrit for submitting me your article. it is very clear and easy to understand.

Best regards

Christian

Rodrigo
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System Design Calculation For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 30. Sep. 2005 - 07:27

Thanks Mr. Amrit your article is very useful. This article, allow ample understanding the Fundamental concepts, definitions, and equations used in the pneumatic conveyor.

regards,

miteeg
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System Design Calculation

Posted on 7. Oct. 2005 - 04:07

Amrit,

Many thanks for the article, It is just what I have been looking for several days already. I find the calculations and theory useful, I'm trying to use it to design a preduster for pellet conveyor with capacity 200 tonnes per hour.

Gert

May I Have Your Article??

Posted on 27. Oct. 2005 - 07:43

Dear Amrit

may I have a copy of your article?

---------"If you know basic Excel, you can use my calculation method published in Powder Handling and Processing magazine in its April 2005 issue. This article gives the theory and all of the equations that are internally used in computer programs. It takes the mystery out of the computer programs."---------------

I found it may help me achieve my goals in this research field. This would make a really positive contribution to my work. I would like to be able to read the full text of this article.

Thank you for your kind consideration of this request.

best regards

Re: Design Calculation For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 27. Oct. 2005 - 09:42

Dear Mr Agarwal,

I would be very grateful if you sent me the article.

My e-mail is: j.elizalde@ingesoa.com

INGESOA S.A.L. Navarra (SPAIN) [email]j.elizalde@ingesoa.com[/email] [url]www.ingesoa.com[/url]

Article On Pneumatic Conveying: Theory And Design

Posted on 27. Oct. 2005 - 05:51

Dear Mr. Elizalde,

As requested I have sent to you a copy of this article. Hope it will be useful to you in understanding how pneumatic conveying systems are designed and calculated.

Regards,

Amrit Agarwal

Consulting Engineer

Pneumatic Conveying Consulting

Email: polypcc@aol.com

Ph and Fax: 304 346 5125

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Pnuematic System Calculation

Posted on 28. Oct. 2005 - 07:40

Dear Mr. Amrit T. Agarwal sir,

With reference to your below discussion please send your calculation method published in Powder Handling and Processing magazine in its April 2005 issue. If possible in PDF format on E-mail address rajuraju103@indiatimes.com / drwahd@sanghicement.com

With regards,

Rajendra Patel

Re: Design Calculation For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 28. Oct. 2005 - 09:51

Dear Mr Agarwal,

Thank you for your article, it is very useful.

INGESOA S.A.L. Navarra (SPAIN) [email]j.elizalde@ingesoa.com[/email] [url]www.ingesoa.com[/url]

Article

Posted on 28. Oct. 2005 - 08:00

Dear Rajendra,

As requested a copy of my article "Theory and Design of Pneumatic Cconveying Systems" published in the April 2005 issue of Powder Handling and Processing has been sent to you. I hope that this article will help you in understanding how pneumatic conveying systems are designed using Excel.

Another of my articles that was published as the feature article in Chemical Engineering "Debottlenecking Pneumatic Conveying Systems" in its May 2004 issue combined with the above article will tell you almost all you would need to know about pneumatic conveying theory and design principles.

Regards,

Amrit Agarwal

Pneumatic Conveying Consulting

Emailolypcc@aol.com

Ph and Fax: 304 346 5125

Re: Design Calculation For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 30. Oct. 2005 - 04:40

If you are truly interested in learning about the principles of pneumatic conveying and how various factors can influence a system design and more importantly, how they can affect system performance, the most complete set of information is availble through Powder and Bulk Engineering.

Their web site is www.powderbulk.com.

You should request copies of the Pneumatic Points to Ponder articles which have been a regular feature in the magazine for nearly 17 years.

Our firm, Pneumatic Conveying Consultants and more specifically our Lead Consultant, Paul Solt, has presented information which covers virtually every aspect of system design, operation, troubleshooting from primarily a PRACTICAL perspective.

These articles along with the reference to the text books published by many of our academic counterparts such as David Mills, George Klinzing and many others would be a superb combination of knowledge and experience.

Regards

moody
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Pneumatic Conveying System Design Calculations

Posted on 1. Dec. 2005 - 01:14

For anyone needing system design calculation calculations for pneumatic conveying, I can personally recommend you e-mail Amrit T. Agarwal (you can find lots of his posts on this forum). Powder handling is a relatively new area for the company I work for so these calculations were invaluable.

Thanks for your help Armit.

Regards,

Andrew Cook

Moody Systems

My Articles On Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 1. Dec. 2005 - 08:17

Dear Jack,

I have very high regards for Dr. George Klinzing and Mr. Paul Solt, both personally as well as professionally. Dr. Klinzing's book "Pneumatic Conveying of Solids" and the publications of Mr. Solt are my reference documents. I hope that my articles will also be useful in understanding the basic design principles of pneumatic conveying and will be helpful in pneumatic conveying systems' calculations using basic Excel.

Regards,

Amrit T. Agarwal

Consulting Engineer

Pneumatic Conveying Consulting

Email: polypcc@aol.com

Ph and Fax: 304 346 5125

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Gas Velocity, Solid Mass Velocity, Solid Ratio (Solid To Air Ra…

Posted on 7. Dec. 2005 - 10:28

Dear Amit sir,

I am very thankful to you. I have read your article. It very helps to me.

But I have some problem regarding Gas velocity, Solid mass velocity, Solid ratio (Solid to Air Ratio), Particle velocity, Fanning Friction Factor (f), Conveying velocity for selection of pipe Dia. in both system dense phase & dilute system.

I want (standard) value of above factor for following materials.

1. Cement :- Bulk density 1 - 1.1 T/Cub.M

Fineness:-3000 to 4000 blaine

Max.Temp:-80 Deg. C,

Moisture contain: Negligible.

2. Fly Ash: - Bulk density 0.65 T/Cub.M

Fineness:-3000 -3200 blaine

Max.Temp:-65 Deg. C, dry type

Moisture contain: Negligible.

3. Coal (Lignite): - Bulk density 0.6-1 T/Cub.M

Fineness:-90 Microns

Max.Temp:-100 Deg. C,

Moisture contain: Negligible.

So, we can calculate approximate pipe Dia & Blower (Compressor) capacity air volume & pressure drop. Calculation for our various projects cost estimation & further use.

I hope your favorable reply on my id rajuraju103@indiatimes.com.

With regards,

R.D. Patel

Re: Design Calculation For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 7. Dec. 2005 - 03:40

Dear Rajendra,

I will be glad to help you. Please send this request to me at my email address but after converting your data into FPS units.

All the best

Amrit

Amrit T. Agarwal

Consulting Engineer

Pneumatic Conveying Consulting

Email: polypcc@aol.com

Ph and Fax: 304 346 5125

Re: Design Calculation For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 7. Dec. 2005 - 08:05

Dear Mr Patel

I do not think there are standard values for the parameters you want.

f.i.

- the solid to air ratio is depending on the pipelength, the applied pipeline and pressure

- the gas velocity is also depending on the applied pressure as this gas velocity is related to the local suspension velocity.

- particle velocity is a result from the gas velocity (at any place in the pipeline) and the product resistence, causing velocity loss and reaccelleration.

- the friction factor is of course depenring of the calculation algorithm.

All parameters at any location and therefore also the end result are interdependent and therefore it is so difficult to get this in a mathematical algorithm.

The algorithm I made is doing that pretty well and is checked, mainly against cement, flyash and alumina and grains and derivatives.

Using the same material factors and formels for the same product in vacuum- as well as in pressure mode

(see also the last thread of kevinjcg)

best regards

Teus

System Design Calculations For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 7. Dec. 2005 - 09:22

Dear Mr. Agarwal,

I would be interested in obtaining a copy of your calculation method? It would help out alot for my project.

Thanks!

Paul McLean

email: pamcl@hotmail.com

Information Needed

Posted on 8. Dec. 2005 - 08:13

Special thank Mr. Agarwal, I found your article very useful, it syntetise the criterias I need for my work.

I am sure that others will also find it very helpful, as I did.

My best regards,

Manfred Farquez Z.

April 2005 Article By Amrit Agarwal

Posted on 8. Dec. 2005 - 09:04

The article was very detailed, yet simple to understand.

Thanks, Jake

Article By Amrit

Posted on 13. Dec. 2005 - 10:19

Received and read this article and found it very helpful not only in calculating, but in explaining the concept to others not familiar with dilute phase. Thanks Amrit.

Excel Spreadsheet Calculation

Posted on 15. Dec. 2005 - 03:33

Mr. Agarwal's article on calculating system pressure drops with an Excel spreadsheet is very useful. The article explains the basis for the calculations and is straight forward and easy to follow. He is very kind to share it with me.

I recommend it to anyone working with pneumatic systems. It is worth having in your tool box for estimating pneumatic conveying systems.

rwynn

R.Saminathan
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Re: Design Calculation For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 17. Dec. 2005 - 10:49

It will much use full to yse this kind of package. My email:ramsam5770@yahoo.com

Design Of Pneumatic Conveying Systems

Posted on 17. Dec. 2005 - 08:08

Dear Mr. Agarwal,

Many thanks for your article you sent to me. At the first sight, this article, clear and offering practical solution of calculation, will be very helpful to me, in an immediate application.

Best regards,

Serban Maracineanu

Bucharest, Romania

Re: Design Calculation For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 20. Dec. 2005 - 05:45

Could you send a copy to me? Thank you very much , my email is

yuyonghua@163.com.

I come from Shanghai China.

Calculation Scheme Of Mr Agarval

Posted on 21. Dec. 2005 - 08:28

The discussion in this thread made me attentive to the model calculations to determine the pneumatic conveying pressure drop. In fact, both the model itself and its description are straight forward and clear. Thus it is easy to follow the arguing and the calculations.

The main characteristic of the model is that some important, but difficult-to-determine parameters of pneumatic conveying systems, namely the wall friction of the solids, the air/solids velocity ratio, and the influence of elbows etc. are expressed with rather simple assumptions or need to be determined in experiments. And these assumptions are made in spite of the fact that there are more sophisticated equations are available (e.g. by Muschelknautz and co-workers).

The applicant has to decide whether he wants to be

- sophisticated but with more complex calculations or

- simplified but with the risk of applying it to products/conveyors where the general assumptions are not valid.

Kind regards Dr.-Ing. Hans Groenewold

Re: Design Calculation For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 21. Dec. 2005 - 12:38

shri Amrit,

can u send a copy of article published in powder and processing journal in my e mail .

kva
Cementawi
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Thanking

Posted on 21. Dec. 2005 - 06:53

I would like to thank you Mr. Amrit your artical was very helpful to me many thank from me to you..

Cementawi

(Yaser)

Re: Design Calculation For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 22. Dec. 2005 - 09:15

Dear Mr. Amrit T. Agarwal

I found your 2005 article extremely useful. It is a major step to putting the mystery out of the issue.

Please send me also your May 2004 article which you also recommended.

Kind regards

Amit Segev

Technology and R&D manager

Negev Industrial Minerals

POB 1584

Omer 84965

Israel

972-52-4709419

Amit Segev

Re: Design Calculation For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 22. Dec. 2005 - 05:46

Dear Mr Agarwal,

I've received your articles on Debottlenecking Pneumatic Conveying Systems and on Product Quality in Pneumatic Conveying and I'm reading them with much interest.

They are very comprehensive and complement very well the first one about Dilute Phase Design.

Kind Regards

INGESOA S.A.L. Navarra (SPAIN) [email]j.elizalde@ingesoa.com[/email] [url]www.ingesoa.com[/url]
ckthe
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Pneumatic Conveying System - Concept And Design

Posted on 23. Dec. 2005 - 01:43

Dear Mr. Agarwal,

Thanks for your quick reply on my request for the article you posted in Jan/Feb issue of Powder Bulk & Processing - "Theory & Design of Pneumatic Conveying System".

As I was facing difficulty in working out the mathematical model of transferring soybean husk in pneumatic conveyors, your article gives me a lot of insights and idea of sorting all these out.

I think the another good point is, I can extract out most of the formulars and try to construct my own Excel sheet format, it gives me a lot of flexibility to play around the numbers and designs.

Thank you very much!

From,

CK The - JJLEM - Malaysia

Article About Pneumatic Conveying System

Posted on 23. Dec. 2005 - 09:39

Dear Mr Agarwal:

Thanks for your reply on my request for the article you posted in Jan/Feb issue of Powder Bulk & Processing (Theory & Design of Pneumatic Conveying System.

Roberto Martinez -Buenos Aires - Argentina.

Very Good Writeup

Posted on 29. Dec. 2005 - 06:25

Mr Agarwal

I would sincerely like to thank you for your paper on 'Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems'. The paper was very well written and easy to understand. I am now using it to check the design for all the tenders that we have received for our new pneumatic conveying system. Please let me know if you have written any other papers I would certainly want a copy of those also. Once again Thank You.

Best Regards

Terence Ong

mky
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Thank You

Posted on 23. Dec. 2005 - 09:54

Dear Mr. Agarwal,

Thank you for your kind attention on sending your article. I will have a good way of approach to pneumatic conveying problems with your path. Thank you again.

Yours truly,

Mustafa Kemal Yunel

Yunel Elektromekanik Co.Ltd.

Esat Cad. No:42/12

Kucukesat 06660

Ankara/Turkey

Phone : +90 312 4193285

Fax : +90 312 4193289

e-mail : mky@yunel.com

URL : www.yunel.com

Alexander Sam - Oman
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Calculation

Posted on 26. Dec. 2005 - 05:51

Dear Mr. Agarwal,

I would be interesting in obtaining a copy of your calculation . It will be help full.

Thanks!

Alex

Re: Design Calculation For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 27. Dec. 2005 - 05:20

Alex,

Please send me an email to get this article. My email address is given in this thread.

Thanks,

Amrit Agarwal

Pneumatic Conveying Consulting

Alexander Sam - Oman
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Calculation

Posted on 28. Dec. 2005 - 07:34

Dear Mr. Amit,

Please find enclose my email :alsam2006@yahoo.com.

Thanks

Alex

Alexander Sam - Oman
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Calculation

Posted on 29. Dec. 2005 - 05:19

Thanks Mr. Amrit

The article is very useful. This article, allow ample understanding the Fundamental concepts, definitions and equations used in the pneumatic conveying.

Regards,

Alex

Alexander Sam - Oman
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Calculation

Posted on 31. Dec. 2005 - 06:25

Mr. Amrit

Thanks recieved the article, The article is very useful basic fundamental, definitions & equations of Pnematic conveying. Certainly this will help for getting basic essentails.

Regards

Alex

erdemzaferun
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Calculation

Posted on 3. Jan. 2006 - 11:59

May I have this calculation document. Because I always live same design problems. Thank you right now.

erdemzaferun
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Re: Design Calculation For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 3. Jan. 2006 - 12:03

may I have this document.

thanks right now,

ezaferun@sispaltd.com.tr

Lawrence Rohn
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Re: Design Calculation For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 6. Jan. 2006 - 03:28

thanks for the copy of "Theory and Design......"

it provides a quick description of the elements and is a straightforward, concise, practical approach to design

Henk van Hulsel
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Re: Design Calculation For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 9. Jan. 2006 - 10:13

Dear Mr. Agarwal,

Thank you very much for your article about "Theory and Design of Dilute Phase Pneumatic Conveying Systems". It is a straightforward and practical method for the design of dilute phase conveying systems. I am really looking forward for the publication of your article about dense phase conveying.

Henk van Hulsel

Aker Kvaerner Netherlands BV

Re: Design Calculation For Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 9. Jan. 2006 - 03:50

Dear Mr. Amrit Agarwal,

Many thanks for your article about "Design guide for dust collectors". It gave me a very good idea in the main technical features for the assessment of pulse jet filter proposals. Straightforward information, easily understandable, great contribution for my job!

Thanks also for the article on "Dilute phase pneumatic conveying design guide". I add my gratefulness to all those who have already done it!

Please keep me posted if you plan to write any article on dense phase conveying.

With kind regards,

Eng. Walter Lusiardo