Re: Hose Concern For Mobile Access Unit
I might be missing something, but shouldn't Plant A have the same gear as Plant B?
The concerns about the portable loading platform are totally justified. 
You'd never get it approved in Europe where there is a 25kg limit on manhandled items, even before starting a climb. The website indicates some quite outlandish truckloading practices which seriously devalue the OSHA. Are the ladders interlocked to the trailer park brake sytem for starters?
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Re: Hose Concern For Mobile Access Unit
Plant B is a smaller, recently aquired plant that has a different setup and purposes than the much bigger plant A.
As for the trailer park brake sytem, I do not know.
One solution for this I thought might be out there, just not knowing where to look, was a hose system that is attached and runs up along the length of the railing and has some slack at the top for connecting to the tank.
See the attached picture. I am quite the artist.
There could be some slack for when the ladder needs to be extended/retracted, and at the yellow points, a point where the hoses are fixed to the unit so they don't move. At the bottom, the hoses can be connected to the source back to the storage tank and the top be connected to the tanks.
After the loading is done, the hoses needing it can be purged or sent to a flare and capped off at both ends for when storing the mobile unit.
Does this seem like a reasonable option, or are there some restrictions/safety issues I am not seeing?
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Re: Hose Concern For Mobile Access Unit
Disturbances in the hose, caused by filling level fluctuations, will try to straighten the hose, for starters, and this will tend to knock the platform about a bit.
Rather leave the slack at the top and fix a longest practical rigid pipe to the platform.
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Re: Hose Concern For Mobile Access Unit
Originally Posted by louispanjang
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Hoses Etc.
Originally Posted by vevangelistAs for the trailer park brake sytem, I do not know.
One solution for this I thought might be out there, just not knowing where to look, was a hose system that is attached and runs up along the length of the railing and has some slack at the top for connecting to the tank.
See the attached picture. I am quite the artist.
There could be some slack for when the ladder needs to be extended/retracted, and at the yellow points, a point where the hoses are fixed to the unit so they don't move. At the bottom, the hoses can be connected to the source back to the storage tank and the top be connected to the tanks.
After the loading is done, the hoses needing it can be purged or sent to a flare and capped off at both ends for when storing the mobile unit.
Does this seem like a reasonable option, or are there some restrictions/safety issues I am not seeing?
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Until you have a new dedicated loading dock-
Mounting a hand cranked winch on a jib arm (bolted to the mobile frame with acceptable metals and ground clamps etc.) to lift the hose to the proper height. It would be the quick fix.
Please See below:
I would have a piece of white PVC pipe bolted to the ladder frame-it is to corral the hose and keep it in one place and have the upper section of the "loose"hose end kept on the winch hook with an air compressor hose whip stop choker.
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Re: Hose Concern For Mobile Access Unit
Hi there,
I would probabluy go with a mechanized trailer like the ones Gapvax makes. You would not need the cyclone separator but they guys from Gapvax could build you one that pretty much has the trailer docking part and the conveying lines. You could then use the stair system merely for making sure that the truck lines up correctly and for connecting purposes. It is just a thought. I would not want to be responsible for anyone doing this manually.
http://www.gapvax.com/trailer.html
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Hose Concern for Mobile Access Unit
Our one plant has a loading rack for ISOtanks/Tank trucks that is just a platform that moves up and down with rails for fall protection on the sides. This works perfectly fine for top, center loading ISOs and trailers. However, we do see ISOtanks that are what we call "Sideloaders". Basically the loading connections and the storm box are slightly off-center, about 7-10 inches.
This presents a problem because the way the existing platform lowers, the fall protection rails are in the way when opening the storm box lid on the sideloaders.
So whenever we have a Sideloader ISO, we have to send it empty to another plant and then send the material from the original plant (plant A) to this second plant (plant B) for them to transload it, because plant B is able to handle Sideloader ISOs. This costs us about $1,500 everytime we have to load into a Sideloader.
We are seeing a huge increase in the amount of Sideloaders coming in for fill and we need to accomodate them so we aren't spending $1,500 everytime.
We are looking into getting a Mobile Access Unit as seen here: http://carbis.net/page/mobileplatforms.html
One of the main concerns for the plant is that they feel it is unsafe for the workers to lug heavy hoses up these stairs and see it as a fall-risk. Since we fill these ISOtanks with Mercaptans, we need to haul liquid, vapor, and Nitrogen lines up the stairs.
Is there a way to accomodate this so that they are not carrying the hoses up everytime? ■