Is this machine advertised on this, or any other forum?

What would be the application for such a machine?

Blending and re-export is one possibility. Another application would be for exporting power station ash to a cement facility.

I would also appreciate more sourcing information.

Unless it is a down-luffing belt conveyor mounted alongside a grab carrying boom I would expect reliability issues.

There are more questions than answers: but, unlike the song, the more we find out the more we know. ■

As far as my sight goes, this can be possible.Please correct me if, I am wrong.-The loading of the coal shall be done using hopper/hoppers, where the coal shall be fed by a Grab and then distributed in to the ship. The unloading mechanism shall be through scrapper conveyor.

Anil Seth ■

Originally Posted by NarayananNalinakshan

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Some sales men has approached the Port authorities with this suggestion,

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"Some sales men; some suggestion!"

This proposed machine would find it difficult to load and unload at the same time because different berths would normally be required.

That is why separate machines are used. So you would need 2 machines and the CAPEX saving would be minimal. If only one machine is available it will have to be a grab: like it was a hundred years ago.

It might be possible to combine loading and unloading operations onboard a ship. Such aberrations are possible around the Great Lakes where the routes are very discrete and so are the cargoes. However, if the ship encounters a port where onshore facilities already exist then money is being wasted: whether the operation involves loading or unloading.

It is one thing to throw and gather material about a stockyard where the floor is substantially flat and the architecture can manipulate the material contours. It is quite another thing to lift that material over the ship's rail whatever the direction and intent. Tide, time, weather and the Deck Officer play their part. Some manufacturers prove this when on one hand they build admirable combined stacking and reclaiming machines for very unfriendly materials and then soil their nest by building overambitious dockside equipment which spill friendly cargo over the hatch covers. ■

Originally Posted by libranengineering

As far as my sight goes, this can be possible.Please correct me if, I am wrong.-The loading of the coal shall be done using hopper/hoppers, where the coal shall be fed by a Grab and then distributed in to the ship. The unloading mechanism shall be through scrapper conveyor.

Anil Seth

Here is what, we have learnt from this Forum including from Mr. John Gateley. Recently, we have proposed similar machine to A power plant in BanglaDesh, where PWC appointed us as their technical consultant. This is a trans shipper, which unload the coal from the hatch of ship and side by side load the coal in to Barges parked other side.. We have given the technical specs. and concept for the same and that is appreciated by the Authorites. Price, if, converted using old ship--around 30 million dollars.

Cheers

Anil ■

I had assumed that the thread starter was referring to operations over the ships rail and onto the dockside rather than straightforward lightering work.

It is usually possible to perform lightering operations using a ships gearing with a grab. In fact it is the norm.

But if is there is someone in Bangladesh with US$30E6 to throw away then by all means throw it. ■

Cheers John, For your language.

Anil

Originally Posted by johngateley

I had assumed that the thread starter was referring to operations over the ships rail and onto the dockside rather than straightforward lightering work.

It is usually possible to perform lightering operations using a ships gearing with a grab. In fact it is the norm.

But if is there is someone in Bangladesh with US$30E6 to throw away then by all means throw it.

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