Stockpile Bulk Density Distribution

Posted in: , on 11. May. 2011 - 06:21

Dear sirs,

Need your kindly suggestion on determining the average bulk density of mineral stockpiles. The stockpiles are always about 1,000~5,000 cubic meters, cone or trapezium shaped.

Considering the bulk density in different positions/places of the stockpile are different, and what we need is the average bulk density to calculate the total weight.

My question is, which positions should we sample from, or anybody knows the bulk density distribution in the huge stockpiles, any model/formula/curve/picture, will be highly appreciated.

Sincerely yours,

George

Re: Stockpile Bulk Density Distribution

Posted on 11. May. 2011 - 04:27

And please also kindly consider that the moisture varies from surface to the inner.

Particulately Interesting.

Posted on 11. May. 2011 - 12:59
Quote Originally Posted by tossgeorgeView Post
And please also kindly consider that the moisture varies from surface to the inner.

Good question(s).

Moisture migrates throughout stored materials. Its influence on density cannot be accurately determined beyond the recommendation of some dewatering equipment suppliers that there will be an initial 2% drainage over the first couple of days ensilement.

If there is segregation during stacking then we could expect lower density because of larger voids but that is conjecture. I have seen 1.5m boulders which have lain together with hardly any voids.

DEM would be particularly useful in this application. Results of DEM would be somewhat statistical. Just like sampling results are highly statistical. Some old timers would say "It all depends on what you are trying to prove."

Stockpiles

Posted on 11. May. 2011 - 01:26

As louis has said it is a good question BUT,

the issue is more of the wieght of the material

per cubic foot as density will be affected by

settling and compaction from the act of stacking

and simple gravity as well as particle separation.

Google Is Your Friend

Posted on 11. May. 2011 - 02:06

What does the packing distribution look like, and what factors affect it?

http://www.simpas.unsw.edu.au/public...N1991187.pdf

How do do you estimate the overall density in a heap?

http://www.simpas.unsw.edu.au/public...B1991605.pdf

Both papers by are by Yu and Standish, University of Wollongong and are for the case of coal.

Peter Donecker Bulk Solids Modelling [url]www.bulksolidsmodelling.com.au[/url] [url]https://solidsflow.wordpress.com/[/url]

Re: Stockpile Bulk Density Distribution

Posted on 11. May. 2011 - 02:17

The bulk density depends on the size distribution, uniformly sized material tends to have a more consistent bulk density than material with a broad range of material sizes. It also depends on how the stockpile is loaded and the moisture content. If there is a broad range of material sizes and the stockpile is fed randomly off the end of a conveyor at reasonable height then there will be significant material size segregation through the stock pile (and this is a primary cause of rat holing) for instance. So there is no simple answer to your question. A simple experiment is one way and that is run the stockpile down so it is effectively empty and then load it to full capacity with no draw down and using a weightometer work out how much is in the stockpile. If it is important to know then this is a simple way of finding out

Cheers

Colin Benjamin

Gulf Conveyor Systems Pty Ltd

www.conveyorsystemstechnology.com

Thank You All

Posted on 13. May. 2011 - 09:36

Thank you sir louis, lzaharis, donecker, and colin. It is damn exciting that your ideas are absolutely fresh and different from what I used to see about this subject.

But before I can ask for further questions, I have to carefully read the two articles provided by Donecker. Hi Donecker, how did you find the two articles? I also tried google.com but almost find nothing really useful. Seems google is your friend but not mine

And dear louis, does DEM mean Digital Elevation Model, if yes, we already applied it, really amazing.

Thanks again and have a nice weekend!

Best regards,

George