Hydraulic Question

Posted in: , on 5. Jan. 2009 - 13:53

Please kindly some one, an expert, to answer this question:

A water pump piston of cross sectional area of 0.875 square metres under 280.00 kg THRUST can go down for 0.32 metres.

The pump fills a volume of 0.875 x 0.32 = 0.280 cubic metre after moving for 0.32 metres. This volume of 0.280 cubic metre contains 280.00kg of water. Now how HIGH this pump can expel the water through a pipe of 10.00 sqr cm cross sectional area?

Static Head

Posted on 5. Jan. 2009 - 01:24

This one does not get past Chapter 1 of any fluid mechanics textbook. It could be solved by anyone studying for 'O' Level (Matriculation) Physics and certainly does not require expert advice on a bulk handing forum.

Re: Hydraulic Question

Posted on 5. Jan. 2009 - 02:54
Quote Originally Posted by louispanjangView Post
This one does not get past Chapter 1 of any fluid mechanics textbook. It could be solved by anyone studying for 'O' Level (Matriculation) Physics and certainly does not require expert advice on a bulk handing forum.

Many thanks for your reply.

I have many answers but I am not sure if I am right. I am self taught-person. Could you kindly tell me which one of the following answers are correct:

1-1.00kg of water in pipe of 10 sq cm takes a pipe 1.00 metre long. Now can this pump expel these 280.00kg of water into a pipe of 280.00 metre HIGH?

2-If we let the pump to expel the water to the same volume space but different dimensions of height and pump cross sectional area like multiplying the height by 20 to 20 x 0.32 = 6.40m height and dividing pump cross sectional area by 20 like 0.875/20= 0.04375 sq metre. Now can this pump expel all the water into the same volume space but different dimensions, which include a height of 6.40m.

Regards

Pump Etc.

Posted on 6. Jan. 2009 - 04:35
Quote Originally Posted by MountainView Post
Please kindly some one, an expert, to answer this question:

A water pump piston of cross sectional area of 0.875 square metres under 280.00 kg THRUST can go down for 0.32 metres.

The pump fills a volume of 0.875 x 0.32 = 0.280 cubic metre after moving for 0.32 metres. This volume of 0.280 cubic metre contains 280.00kg of water. Now how HIGH this pump can expel the water through a pipe of 10.00 sqr cm cross sectional area?



Since this puzzle has no more clues:

The speed of the piston is not specified; the length of the 10 square centimeter pipe is not specified; The pump is not specified as being a reciprocating or linear piston with a piston rod. one must only assume the volume moved is only the volume in the piston at bottom center to top dead center of the stroke but that is also an unknown as the length of the 10. 00 square centimeter pipe is also an issue as is the number of pipe reduction fittings used is unkown; the size of the reducing fitings is unknown, the resistance of the fittings, the water temperature; the rate of evaporation; the altitude of the experiment and its effect on the surface area water pressure in the cylinder; the amount of bypass in the piston if any; the amount of energy it takes to push the cylinder to top dead center; the amount of vacuum created behind the piston assuming it is dry behind the piston.

The only plausible amount is the 280. 00 kilogram amount less the amount left in the pipe fitting of unknown distance in length..

If you really want understand water movement you should google the weighlock building at the Erie Canal Museum.

I did not mean to ruin the fun of the problem

lzaharis

Lyle Brown
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Re: Hydraulic Question

Posted on 6. Jan. 2009 - 05:50

Assume we take a really simple approach:

P=P

=F/A = pgh,

h= F/Apg

=280*9.81/0.875*1000*9.81 = 0.32 m.

You state your maximum thrust (280 kg), turn into a force and then a pressure based on your data, the maximum height of water (assume 1000 kg/m3) can be found?

Regards,

Lyle