Unloading Frozen Aggregate from Rail Cars

Posted in: , on 28. Jan. 2008 - 05:31

Every winter we are faced with the enormous problem of unloading frozen aggregate in rail cars and we are considering to install hydraulic vibrators to alleviate the problem but before we do we would like to receive input from our colleagues on the forum as to their personal experiences with this problem in general and with using hydraulic vibrators in particular.

We have both rollover and bottom dump rail cars working in minus 40 degree weather during the winter months.

Thanks in advance for input.

Regards,

Don West

Frozen Product

Posted on 28. Jan. 2008 - 05:25

Greetings

We noted your inquiry regarding dealing with frozen product in rail cars. Perhaps you might consider our Surplus Thaw Shed. Previously used to thaw rail cars filled with copper concentrate in sub zero temperatures.

Please feel free to contact us for additional information.

Sincerely,

Al Goodmundson

Phone, Canada (306)-664-7260

Email: norsequip@sasktel.net

Unloading Frozen Aggregate From Rail Cars

Posted on 28. Jan. 2008 - 05:32

Thanks Al, but we have a thaw shed now. We also employ steam lances. We have mixed results with these solutions plus we are trying to speed up the unloading.

Rgds,

Don

Re: Unloading Frozen Aggregate From Rail Cars

Posted on 28. Jan. 2008 - 06:47

We've been here before.

Until railcar designers do a proper job & provide scowback floors ( like the dump trucks have) you will never get frozen material out of cars without a lot of aggro. There are less 'g's' involved in a railcar. With substantially open ended railcars you could then have near continuous discharge with a scarifier plough. Too easy & unfortunately too late.

Every winter, same problem. You'd think the clowns in the rolling stock departments would have cottoned on over the generations.

John Gateley johngateley@hotmail.com www.the-credible-bulk.com

Re: Unloading Frozen Aggregate From Rail Cars

Posted on 1. Feb. 2008 - 04:55

It is our experience that hydraulic vibrators can damage the cars.

Piston dovetail bracket (pocket) vibrators are known to work better and don't damage the cars.

See this case study with testimonial of a user at Lafarge.

http://www.navco.org/hopper-car-unlo...rce=bulkonline

We also have vibration solutions for rollover type dumpers, and overhead and side shaker models too.

http://www.navco.org/hopper-car-unlo...lkonline<br />

Hope this helps.

(PS - are you really on Eldridge in Houston? We're practically neighbors!! - We're off Tanner, you can come visit us anytime to see the equipment)

(832)467-3636 x118

Tiffany Moore Two companies under one roof: http://www.navco.us Experts in Applied Vibration - Industrial Vibrator Mfg. and JVI Vibratory Equipment http://www.JVIVibratoryEquipment.com Vibratory Feeder and Screen Mfg. Call toll free for info: 1 (800)231-0164

Re: Unloading Frozen Aggregate From Rail Cars

Posted on 19. Feb. 2008 - 06:14

We provide covering systems for both rotary dump and hopper railcars. Our covers ensure the railcar and product is kept dry and this assists in easier unloading. Our covers operate in a wide variety of weather conditions in many countries. We have a selction of covering systems ranging from manual to fully automated. Please contact us for more information.

John Cruikshank

Ecofab Australasia

jrc@ecofab.com

www.ecofab.com

Re: Unloading Frozen Aggregate From Rail Cars

Posted on 31. Mar. 2008 - 11:17

If you are interested the company I work for sells a product that will penetrate any product you have in the rail car frozen or dry. It will then keep the product flowing out the bottom with out the use of hammers and or vibrators. It will probe the car from above with one operator controling the probe and one opening doors.

I have helped companies go from two weeks of unloading one unit train to unloading the same number of units in two days.

If you are interested please give me an email and I will get in contact with you.

Erik Hopperton

erikh@npkce.com

Re: Unloading Frozen Aggregate From Rail Cars

Posted on 5. Apr. 2008 - 05:21

Under our Railcar Dumpers we have provided a Rotating Hammermill which is fitted on top of the grizzly. We have installed these worldwide from US to Siberia. These work well in conjunction with either a thawing shed and/or vibrators. We have provided these as a retrofit on existing installations and on dumpers of other manufacturers. If interested I could get info for you on an installation near you.

Please check out our web site www.heylpatterson.com or contact me via email at hedelman@heylpatterson.com

Harry Edelman Sr VP Heyl & Patterson Inc.