Problems with Soybeans Screening

Posted in: , on 9. Mar. 2006 - 18:44

EXCUSE ME. I'M SPANISH SPOKEN. ACTUALLY I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A VIBRATORY SCREEN FOR SOYBEANS. IT HAS TWO DECKS - THE TOP 9 MM. PERFORATION AND BOTTOM 3.5 MM. PERFORATION.

WIDTH: 1.500 MM.

LENGTH BOTH DECKS: 2.000 MM.

SLOPE EQUIPMENT: 12 DEGREES

EQUIPPED WITH (02) VIBRATORY MOTORS 1 HP EACH ONE, 950 RPM.

IT IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A CAPACITY 40 METRIC TONS/HOUR

I CANNOT REACH THE SUPPOSED CAPACITY

CAN ANYONE HELP ME WITH MY PROBLEM?

THANKS

Soybean Screening Not Getting Tph

Posted on 18. Mar. 2006 - 09:03

Hello and thankyou for your question: We need a few more questions answered to identify why you are NOT getting the TPH .

QUESTIONS:

1. What do you mean, NOT getting the 40 MTPH? Overloading?

not separating big beans from small or trash out of beans?

2. Are you trying to size to specific product range or scalp sticks stones and trash out of the soybeans?

2. I need a sieve analysis of the bean sizes going onto the screen, this will tell us if you have a lot of NEAR SIZE beans, trying to separate a small amount out of a large feed....tends to be a difficult task.

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I converted your metric numbers into imperial for my own purpose:

1500mm = 60" inches or 5 feet wide screen box

2000mm = 80" inches or 6.6 feet long screen box

total sq feet: 33 square feet or a 5' wide x 6.6' long screenbox

Meaning: 40MTPH divided by 33 = 1.2 tph per sq foot divided by 2 decks = .6 TPH per sq foot must pass thru fairly small openings.

so, screen on first glance appears to be UNDERSIZE, but you must tell me what is actually NOT HAPPENING. Do you have carryover on the top deck or carryover on the 2nd deck?

I am assuming your product is not clean enough after passing over the screen (indicating it is INEFFICIENT).

GENERAL RULE OF THUMB is:

WIDTH of screen equals Tons per hour (if wider, you can do more TPH)

LENGTH of screen equals MORE EFFICIENT or more retention time on the deck shaking the product, means cleaner product after passing over the screen. (If longer, you get cleaner product)

TOP DECK OPG: 9mm = .360" (just slightly smaller than 3/8")

2ND DECK OPG: 3.5mm = .140" (just slightly bigger than 1/8")

THIS is a tough screening job.

12 degree slope........seems to shallow until we talk more

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BED DEPTH: I assume the load is too DEEP or ganging up on the deck as it goes down. Means fines can not find their way down thru the material bed to attempt to pass the opening in the deck.

FEED TO SCREEN: VERY VERY important aspect, most people do not pay attention to. How do you put feed onto the screener?

We must make sure the material is NOT SURGE LOADED onto the screen....this will definitely make it INEFFICIENT quickly.

We must make sure we spread all the material completely sideplate to sideplate .....the full width of the screener or you will be IN PRACTICE.....screening on much smaller screen.

SPEED: 950 seems slow for this task

STROKE: how long is the stroke? if too long = inefficient, if too short = inefficient

SLOPE: 12 DEGREES, seems somewhat shallow

BED DEPTH: confirm depth of soybeans at the discharge end of the screener or the 6.6 foot mark.

We have work to do.

Best Regards, George Baker Regional Sales Manager - Canada TELSMITH Inc Mequon, WI 1-519-242-6664 Cell E: (work) [email]gbaker@telsmith.com[/email] E: (home) [email] gggman353@gmail.com[/email] website: [url]www.telsmith.com[/url] Manufacturer of portable, modular and stationary mineral processing equipment for the aggregate and mining industries.

Re: Problems With Soybeans Screening

Posted on 18. Mar. 2006 - 10:00

Actually we have carryover on the top deck. When we feed the equipment, we have a lot of "good" grain in place where is supposed to have only trash with higher dimensions than the clean grain.

We had to assembly the vibratory motors so it works against the slope so putting a "brake" to the sliding grain. (not like showed in link listed below)

But I saw another manufacturers that actually are offering equipments with same dimensions with capacities as high as 100 metric tons/hour.

If you want to see what exactly I'm talking about, I have an equipment like the links below. Perhaps with this information you can have a better idea of what I'm talking about.

http://www.satake.co.uk/separators/SFI%20Features.htm

Please, thank you very much for your answer. I waited anxoiusly your answer and right now I'll wait it again.

Sincerely

Re: Problems With Soybeans Screening

Posted on 18. Mar. 2006 - 10:06

I'm here again. I forgot to say that we need the equipment for PRE-CLEANING. We talk about pre-cleaning when we reduce from 8% to 4% of foreign material.

Thank you again.

Sincerely

Re: Problems With Soybeans Screening

Posted on 18. Mar. 2006 - 10:21

Only for showing I used the graphic of the link indicated above.

We have to rotate the motor like indicated in drawing attachment.

With this position, the equipment is working OK but with only 15 metric tons/hour - not the calculated 40 metric tons/hour. I used the VSMA screen area determination.

All similar equipments (there's a lot of manufacturers of these kind of equipments) used the motors like the drawings. We had to rotate them.

It's really difficult to understand.

If you see the link, you can see that the equipment with almost same dimensions of me is supposed to have a capacity of 100 metric tons/hour (not for milling--for silo).

Please, I'll wait again anxoiusly for your answer.

Sincerely

Attachments

vibratory separator (JPG)

Scalping Trash

Posted on 19. Mar. 2006 - 11:37

we have made vibrating scalping screens for CORN (KERNELS) where we were just scalping the STICKS, STONES, RODENTS out of the corn prior to sizing the kernels on a 10 deck 6x16 screener.

the scalper was 6x20 or 120 square feet to scalp the trash out of the corn.

ARE YOU SPREADING THE MATERIAL across full width of the screen deck? and other questions asked?

Best Regards, George Baker Regional Sales Manager - Canada TELSMITH Inc Mequon, WI 1-519-242-6664 Cell E: (work) [email]gbaker@telsmith.com[/email] E: (home) [email] gggman353@gmail.com[/email] website: [url]www.telsmith.com[/url] Manufacturer of portable, modular and stationary mineral processing equipment for the aggregate and mining industries.