Design problem

Posted in: , on 13. Apr. 2006 - 00:22

Hello,

I hope you find this an appropriate post for your forum. A reader has a question we've had trouble finding answers to. We don't want a product "plug", rather some suggestions about the appropriate technology application:

The reader writes:

"How Do We Measure Velocity of Fragile Solids?

We do control systems for pneumatic conveying systems. An upcoming project involves conveying very friable materials in a system designed to minimize particle denigration [degradation?]. We need to measure material velocity and flow rate at several key positions to ensure material isn't building up. System pressure doesn't tell us enough. I'm not sure we can put a probe inside the 2-in. stainless tube. Any suggestions for an internal or external

solution?"

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Thanksvm

Joe Feeley

Re: Design Problem

Posted on 12. Apr. 2006 - 11:18

Originally posted by controldesign

Hello,

I hope you find this an appropriate post for your forum. A reader has a question we've had trouble finding answers to. We don't want a product "plug", rather some suggestions about the appropriate technology application:

The reader writes:

"How Do We Measure Velocity of Fragile Solids?

We do control systems for pneumatic conveying systems. An upcoming project involves conveying very friable materials in a system designed to minimize particle denigration [degradation?]. We need to measure material velocity and flow rate at several key positions to ensure material isn't building up. System pressure doesn't tell us enough. I'm not sure we can put a probe inside the 2-in. stainless tube. Any suggestions for an internal or external

solution?"

You can reply here, or send it to CDTHeAnswer@putman.net.

Thanksvm

Joe Feeley



What you are dealing with is velocity of the air stream versus the weight of the material being moved.

You will need to blow a set amount of material in your system using the dilute phase of conveying the solids to measure time spent in the system from point to point-you can not overcome physics.

The only way you will reduce the degradation of material is using the dilute phase of blower movement of material.

bvsarma
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Particle Velocity

Posted on 12. Apr. 2006 - 11:48

It should be a straight forward application if it is research project.

about 26 years ago. this had been a interseting research topic for most. The various methods are

1Tracer technique. tag the partcles(based on the size if required) by

Dye

Radio active tracer

Anlyse the output to study residence time detsribution.



This was also done to study size reduction in ball mills

2 Or also assume a RTD pattern and correlate with other factors such as pressure drop or temeperature pattern or moisture or, reaction etc.

3..Photographic techniques: I think Warren Springs at Harwel had done this

Re: Design Problem

Posted on 13. Jun. 2006 - 01:28

Simple enough.

use a strobe , and a camera .

either install a transparent section or at the discharge.

the second option use a lazer dopler velocimeter . they work with the dopler shift , and meanwhile you have a clear sight path to the particle in question it will work fine.

marco

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