Re: Dense Phase Pneumatic Conveying System Caculation

Posted on 20. Dec. 2005 - 04:28

Dear Jerry

If you give more of the specific information about the problem you are trying to solve, there are several contributors to this forum who will gladly offer to give you their experience, sizing guidelines and Excel calculation methods, and even provide you with their specific recommendations.

They will need to know the material you want to handle, it's physical characterisitcs, the capacity of the system, the distance you want to convey, both vertical as well as horizontal, the number of bends in the system, the elevation of the location where the system will be installed, etc.

Regards

Re: Dense Phase Pneumatic Conveying System Caculation

Posted on 20. Dec. 2005 - 08:18

OK.

The spec. of the conveying system.

the density is. 5t/m3

the size is 20% < .5mm, 80%<=1mm

The capacity 60t/h

horzontal lengh 160m

vertical lengh 30m

approximately: elbow90/ 5pcs. elbow45/ 4 pcs.

I would be very appreciate if someone can give me some instruction on that issue.

Re: Dense Phase Pneumatic Conveying System Caculation

Posted on 20. Dec. 2005 - 11:02

Dear Jerry

The density you give, is that bulk density or material density ?

I assumed that it is bulk density.

The material density must then be around 8000 kg/m3 or even heavier

What kind of material is that ? Steel perhaps ?

Based on 8000 kg/m3 and a particle size of 0,8 mm average, the floating velocity should be around 11 m/sec

The air velocity in the pipelines should then be around 50 m/sec at atmospheric conditions.

This resulted in the following calculation

This calculation is far from accurate, but it shows in what direction the installation would look like.

FORUM zz d 11-20-2005

Pressure discharge ????????

Convey length = 190 m

Nu of bends= 9

Pump vol = 2.5 + 2.5 m^3/s

q-convey = 2.50 m^3/s

Dia begin = 193 mm

Dia end = 243 mm

Kettle volume = 50.0 m^3

Cement vol.= 40.0 m^3

C-Vessel = 500 tons/hr

Kettle Cement content = 200.0 tons

Pipevolume = 6.24 m^3

Pipeline Syst. /Nr of Req.kettle

Press. Cap. mu Cap. /kettles fact. v-begin v-end kWh/ton res.time

2.000 - 84 - 7 - 83 / 0.4 - 252 - 29.3 - 52.7 - 5.28 - 8.88

1.750 - 67 - 6 - 67 / 0.3 - 185 - 32.0 - 52.6 - 5.87 - 8.48

1.500 - 50 - 5 - 50 / 0.2 - 126 - 35.2 - 52.6 - 6.89 - 8.11

1.250 - 33 - 3 - 33 / 0.1 - 74 - 39.1 - 52.6 - 9.13 - 7.79

1.000 - 13 - 1 - 13 / 0.0 - 26 - 44.0 - 52.5 - 19.56 - 7.57

Maximum system capacity : 83 t/hr at 2 bar(o)

First of all, it seems technically feasible to convey this material.

(Floating velocity is comparable to that of soybeans or grains)

The loading ratio which can be applied is around 7, which is very low.

Therefore the energy consumption per ton is very high.

As I assumed a certain product loss resistance factor, this calculation is (again) far from accurate.

If f.i. this is a very friable product, this resistance factor could be much higher,

because a lot on energy would then be spent on breaking the particles. (inelastic collisions)

Also the abrasiveness of the product is unknown, with the same influence on product resistance factor.

Mentioning your product would make it perhaps easier to determine whether it is possible to convey your material, because then there might emerge practical experience from the forum members.

best regards

Teus

Re: Dense Phase Pneumatic Conveying System Caculation

Posted on 22. Dec. 2005 - 02:25

dear teus

thanks a lot!

it is very helpful.

best regard,

Jerry

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Thanks

Posted on 25. Feb. 2006 - 03:34

Dear Mr. Amrit

your kind support for upcoming engineers is really an awarding one.

Many many thanks for giving basic theory and some calculations on dilute phase pneumatic conveying.

I will be obliged if you can send me theory and calc of dense phase pneumatic conveying systems.

It is ur great effort that young engineers get an access to thie field and learn basics of pneumatic conveying systems.

Thanks & Regards

RITESH SAXENA

Dennis Hauch - Freeport, TX, USA
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Why Pneumatic Conveying

Posted on 25. Feb. 2006 - 10:06

This material at a density of 5 t/m3 (bulk or solid, it really makes no difference) is not a good candidate for pneumatic conveyance in any conveying mode. The energy requirements alone would rule it out as a viable solution.

An economic comparison of pneumatic and mechanical systems, taking both installed costs and operating costs into account, should be made. The outcome would very likely favor mechanical methods. Experience says that tube conveyors would look attractive.

Do your homework and let the numbers do the talking.

Dennis Hauch, PE

cacing
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Dense Phase Calcs

Posted on 22. Mar. 2006 - 02:17

Hi sirs,

I've just recently learn something about lean phase conveying and would like to know more about dense phase one.

is there someone that can provide some equations for me to do design calculations for dense phase conveying?

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Re: Dense Phase Pneumatic Conveying System Caculation

Posted on 9. Feb. 2014 - 11:07
Quote Originally Posted by JerryliuView Post
Dear sirs

I am just working on the penumatic conveying syterm caculation. I only learn a little bit dilute phase penumatic conveying system.

I request the kindly help on the design work.

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