Fluid Coupling : Water or Oil Filled ?

Posted in: , on 23. Dec. 2012 - 06:41

Hello Experts,

We have Chinese supplied Fluid couplings installed in our plant. Recently a decision was taken to change the fluid in the coupling from WATER to OIL.

This change was also supported by the OEM. So without change in the coupling the media in it was changed.

Does this change can result in overload characteristics being altered ? Recently we have had problems with OVERLOAD of the motor for those conveyors which had this change of media in their couplings ?

Regards

Vin

Re: Fluid Coupling : Water Or Oil Filled ?

Posted on 24. Dec. 2012 - 01:34

You didn't say if the overload was during start-up or running condition.

The OEM should have also recommended the level of fill with water vs oil. Water is heavier than oil by around 20% and therefore will create higher torque values than the oil will. Water is a also lower viscosity than oil.

The fluid level must be calculated and determined by the OEM. Good luck.

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Fluid Coupling

Posted on 25. Dec. 2012 - 05:59

The Overload is mostly during running condition. All other parameters have remained same for the belt conveyor but still this issue repeats itself every now and then.

Regards

Vin

Re: Fluid Coupling : Water Or Oil Filled ?

Posted on 26. Dec. 2012 - 02:50
Quote Originally Posted by Gary BlenkhornView Post
You didn't say if the overload was during start-up or running condition.

The OEM should have also recommended the level of fill with water vs oil. Water is heavier than oil by around 20% and therefore will create higher torque values than the oil will. Water is a also higher viscosity than oil.

The fluid level must be calculated and determined by the OEM. Good luck.



Dear Mr.Gary,

Water viscosity is 1 cSt, where as the oils used in fluid couplings may start at 10 cSt. Kindly correct me if I am wrong. Higher viscosity may cause the over loading.

Regards,

Re: Fluid Coupling : Water Or Oil Filled ?

Posted on 27. Dec. 2012 - 02:53

sganesh

Thank you for the correction as I meant to say lower.

Gary

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Water For Oil - Change

Posted on 4. Jan. 2013 - 12:26

Dear Vin,

firstly: The water fill should have had a reason, as such choice of fluid often is done for environments under explosion hazards or fire hazards. So then, which was the reason for your plants layout decision to use water? There might be regulations to that!

secondly: In general, one of the base features why to take on a fluid coupling is the inherent overload protection, which you have lost due to higher (what exactly?) fluid viscosity (* see below). You may find that on the OEM's info or at least on the oil can the mechanics used when changing the fill. However, you may now be constantly overloading the motor and rising the overall stress level within your mechanical drive system (shafts, bearings etc.). This should be thoroughly assessed, if not beforehand, then at least now.

thirdly: Usually a fluid coupling possess a safety feature called the melting screw or some other device limiting the pressure / temperature of the fluid within the coupling and blowing off the overhot fluid / setting off an alarm to the control. You say: "change of media without change in the coupling". With such a major change as to use oil instead of water, please check the correct functionality of your couplings safety device.

Regards

R.

(* edit of 5.1.: However, the argument of Mr. Blenkhorn remains in my opinion valid. The torque transfer equation of fluid couplings says that torque is indirect proportional to the density of the fluid.)