Debugging Froude number in pneumatic conveying.

Posted in: , on 25. Dec. 2021 - 17:22

I never understood why the Froude number played a role in pneumatic conveying calculations and my questions on this forum (and explanations) were never leading to any respons

Reading an article about pneumatic conveying, I noticed that the Froude number was presented as

Fr=v^2/(g*D) which is wrong.

But I immediately recognized that the representation v^2/(g*D) is a part of the general resistance formula:

∆p=1/2**/g*v^2*L/D

Which can be rewritten as:

∆p=1/2***v^2/(g*D)*L

The term v^2/(g*D) is also known as the Froude number to the square

Fr^2=v^2/(g*D)

Fr=v/√(g*D)

The Froude number represents:

A dimensionless number defined as the ratio of the flow inertia to gravity.

Developed by William Froude a naval architect and hydro dynamic engineer.

The Froude number plays a role in the wave resistance of a partially submerged body (a ship, floating in water)

The moving ship is exiting a force to the water at the bow (flow inertia) which causes the water in front of the bow to rise (gravity), forming a ship’s wave.

However, in pneumatic conveying there is no partially submerged body.

In pneumatic conveying there is only a fully enclosed pipe and only fully submerged particles.

The conclusion is that using the Froude number in pneumatic conveying calculations is a

misinterpretation of the meaning of the Froude number.

The Froude number should not be used in pneumatic conveying calculations.

In flow calculations in closed flow tube, the law of Bernoulli is ruling.

p1+H1+1/2**/g*v1^2=p2+H2+1/2**/g*v2^2

Where =function(Re)

Nevertheless, in most pneumatic conveying calculations the Froude number is used.

Still the calculation results of those algorithms, using the Froude number, result in a usable outcome.

The reason for this “usability” can be explained by:

- The Froude number can be related to the Reynold number at equal velocity.

Fr=Re*viscosity/(D^1.5*√g)

- Relating the Froude number(s) (either pipe diameter or particle) to laboratory- and field tests, the exponent of the deduced Froude number were adapted to get the measured data with the calculation results

- The use of the adapted Froude numbers worked as a huge fudge factor, whereby it became totally unclear what the physical meaning of the formulas and the Froude number meant.

Therefore, it is impossible to understand pneumatic conveying, based on the wrong algorithms.

Calculations based on the flow dynamics based on the law of Bernoulli (flow in tubes) explains the physics completely.

- Which part of the pressure drop is due to wall friction

- Which part of the pressure drop is due to interparticle collisions

- The only left factor is the material resistance factor, which is a material property and depending on the Reynold number and the solid loading ratio.

- The calculation of material velocities is now possible.

I am very relieved now that I now found out how the Froude number got into the pneumatic conveying calculations, because it bothered me for a long time.

I never assume that re writing the general resistance formula could lead to such a misconception of physics by scientist and was never questioned over the years behind us.

This observation must be seriously researched by every engineer in the field of pneumatic conveying and implemented in the existing calculation algorithms.

My education in electro technics, mechanical engineering and ship building finally paid off.

Teus

Re: Debugging Froude Number In Pneumatic Conveying.

Posted on 11. Feb. 2022 - 01:45

Origin of Froude number explained in literature.

I just found an article from 2010 explaining how the Froude number emerged from the research.

The used formulas are:

velfluid2*velsolid

∆pdrag=(cdrag*Asolid*velfluid^2)/(2*g*A)

∆pfs=(0.5*ffs*velsolid^2*es*L)/(g*D)

ef=fluid density

ef=(not explained)fluid density

ffs=fanning factor

∆pdrag=due to drag

A=pipe Area

∆pfs=due to internal friction solid friction of solid particles using a modified fanning friction factor

The total pressure drop was calculated as the sum of the 2 pressure drops.

∆p=∆pdrag+∆pfs=(cdrag*Asolid*velfluid^2)/(2*g*A)+(0.5*ffs*velsolid^2*es*L)/(g*D)

According to the article, the definition of the Froude number, extracted from the equation is now:

Fr=velfluid^2/g*D

A very questionable way to do mathematics.

velfluid^2 origins before the + sign

g*D origins after the + sign

Both equations are originating from the Bernoulli equation, whereby the drag factor and the fanning factor is a function of the Reynold number (Darcy-Weisbach).

The p equations are based on Bernoulli and are based on the Reynold number. (Inertia forces/viscous forces)

This approach does not allow to use the intended Froude ratio. (Inertia force/gravity force)

I would appreciate it, that forum members question or contradict this approach to bring clarity in the use of the Froude number in pneumatic conveying calculations by so many researchers and scientist.

I realize the impact on the general understanding and mathematical description of pneumatic conveying

Teus