Torque Requirement

Posted in: , on 3. Jan. 2009 - 08:09

Dear all,

I need clarification regarding torque requirement in the following arrangement.

Imagine a shaft 25mm diameter 600mm length simply supported and one end

gear is attached to drive the shaft.

Load is externally applied via lever arm and different material(polymer) same

diameter is in contact.

My querey is what is the torque required to drive this shaft arrangement.

Load,shaft geometries,speed are the known values.

My approach is assumed that at static condition load is applied over shaft, finding

the reaction force at each bearing end and from this force multiplied by bearing

mean radius with co efficient of friction of bearing which is normally(0.0025max).

Is the approach is correct?

1)My suspect is when applying force to the bearing, friction coefficient will

increase how to change of friction is accommodated?

2)Rollers in contact with pressure to overcome frictional resistance will be less

only i.e. shaft in contact assume that 100 N is acting,to overcome this force we

will multiply with friction coefficient of two materials say 0.3 and the calculation is

100 x 0.30=30N is enough to overcome the force of 100 N

3)To find reaction force at the ends can i use of 30N instead of 100N?

4)Suppose reaction force will changes in each end,say one end is 50 N and

another end is 35N can i take highier value?

5)Above is that running torque what will the empirically starting torque to select induction motor or servo drive motor specification.can i take say 1.5 times

running torque for both? Can i use T=IxAlpha approach?

6)In this gear is going to drive the shaft gear PCD has any influences?bcoz gear

radius is used to drive the shaft torque?

Thanks

Prakash

Re: Torque Requirement

Posted on 3. Jan. 2009 - 03:03

Read a mechanical design textbook & use the contents of it to find what you're looking for. Your question is quite vague. You say load, shaft geometries and speed are known. By whom?

Re: Torque Requirement

Posted on 3. Jan. 2009 - 10:34
Quote Originally Posted by louispanjangView Post
Your question is quite vague.

Vague, I abandoned trying to make any sense of it at all

Torque Req

Posted on 5. Jan. 2009 - 04:24

Hai,

Sorry my english and way of asking might be vague to all.Thank u for patience

Herewith i have attached layout might be clear to all...

I need to find torque to drive the shaft .....

Thanks

Prakash

Attachments

layout (PNG)

Lyle Brown
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Re: Torque Requirement

Posted on 5. Jan. 2009 - 10:19

Unless I have miss understood, take a look here:

http://www.roymech.co.uk/UsefulTabl...ooffrict.htm

and here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torque

In summary:

F=uN

Refer first link for various u's (who really knows what they are based on though).

and

T=Fr

If you want the answer in torque, I believe you will need radii of some description (which I cannot see in the information currently supplied). Based on the information I have seen to date, you may (use some assumptions) be able to find a result, though express your answer in units of Force only (or maybe per unit of radius).

Though considering the earlier dialogue, I assume there is more to this than is forthcoming / my current understanding.

Regards,

Lyle

Torque Calculation

Posted on 5. Jan. 2009 - 01:28

Dear Friend,

This is basic calculation, Refer any mechanical engineering design book. sizeThis is the way to lerning?

Calculate reaction forces (R) , and Bending Moment

Calculate stresses?

Calculate maximum bending moment ?

Select Shaft siz e ..etc,

Any way this is more to your objectives

Thanks

Uditha Kohowala

manager Engineering

Loadstar pvt ltd

118 , Minuwangoda rd

Ekala

Ja ela

uditha

Re: Torque Requirement

Posted on 5. Jan. 2009 - 03:55
Quote Originally Posted by Lyle BrownView Post
Unless I have miss understood, take a look here:

http://www.roymech.co.uk/UsefulTabl...ooffrict.htm

and here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torque

In summary:

F=uN

Refer first link for various u's (who really knows what they are based on though).

and

T=Fr

If you want the answer in torque, I believe you will need radii of some description (which I cannot see in the information currently supplied). Based on the information I have seen to date, you may (use some assumptions) be able to find a result, though express your answer in units of Force only (or maybe per unit of radius).

Though considering the earlier dialogue, I assume there is more to this than is forthcoming / my current understanding.

Regards,

Lyle

Dear sir

Your sense merely underlines what i had to panacea of this quiry. but as highlighted by you for radius which has not been mentioned in this thread . Can you be specific for which portion you are asking for radius. Is it bearing radius. Moreover his quiry also needs to take load into account as he has mentioned in drg. Based on that lets condensed out the inout data ie

Shaft radius 100mm

Bearing 150mm

Load as given in drg

speed can be assume

based on tjis additionality and given parameter by this author can we ascertain the value of torque and motor power required. Here accentuation is to be given to load acting on shaft as per drg

Awaiting for your valuable reply.........

Regards

Rahul

kj

Torque Req

Posted on 8. Jan. 2009 - 09:08

Dearsirs

Thanks to all for the reply.

To find the torque to rotate the shaft as shown,i am calculating the reaction force as for Ist step to the both ends.

From this reaction force N multiply bearing radius i will find the torque

Here is my doubt, frictional resistance will act on shaft outer surface,Can i use this force and mulitply with bearing radius to find torque?or else to add both...

Which force to multiply to find torque ?

Thanks

prakash

Re: Torque Requirement

Posted on 8. Jan. 2009 - 11:42

Dear prakash

Can you send me your calculation process for torque required to rotate the shaft.

I will plea to get a reply from you. I have bid doubt as there is some diversified concept and trying to link it up with your approach

You can send me the same on my below mail ID

chaubey.07@gmail.com

rahul

kj