Fly Ash unloading system

Posted in: , on 24. May. 2008 - 11:50

Dear sir,

We have fly ash unloading system as description given below.

Volume of storage silo 150 Cub.M (Cap.:-100MT) (Dia- 5.5 mtr.)

Height of Hopper from ground level to hopper top-24 Mtr.

No. point for unloading -1no.

But the existing system is not adequate for unloading capacity 80 TPH.

For that we are increasing the no. of point (3 nos.) for unloading system.

Please suggest, Is it possible to increase no of feed point. Also any effect on hopper.

Also Hopper is feasibly for this system, because the unloading air volume increased.

We are change the compressor 1200Cub.M/hr & 2.5 bar pressure for each point.

Please check the compressor pressure is safe for bulk carrier.

Also I have attached sketch of system.

Regards,

Rajendra Patel

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sketch (ZIP)

R.D.PATEL

Re: Fly Ash Unloading System

Posted on 24. May. 2008 - 10:53

Dear rajendra.patel,

Firstly some questions.

1) What is the present compressor size in m3/min and bar?

2) What is the diameter of the conveying pipe(s)?

3) Do you intend to make 3 separate loading pipes or 1 loading pipe with 3 connection points?

1200m3/hr (20 m3/min) seems a lot of air for 24 m of pipeline with an ordinary bulktruck

Awaiting your information

best regards

teus

Teus

Re: Fly Ash Unloading System

Posted on 24. May. 2008 - 11:20

Dear sir,

Thanks for you

1. The present Air Compressor specification as below.

15 m3/min at 1 bar (at the time hopper height was 16 Mtr. but we are increasing height 24 Mtr. for add to more equipment at silo discharge.)

Existing system take more time for unload the one bulker apprx. 45 minute for 17MT fly ash.

2) Diameter of the conveying pipe:- 100mm

3) Do you intend to make 3 separate loading pipes or 1 loading pipe with 3 connection points : Please suggest which is better.

Please suggest actual air compressor capacity & pressure.

Best regards,

Rajendra Patel

R.D.PATEL

Re: Fly Ash Unloading System

Posted on 24. May. 2008 - 08:38

Dear Rajendra,

I made a pneumatic fly ash conveying calculation for:

horizontal distance 7 m

vertical distance 16 m

diameter pipeline 100 mm (4”)

compressor 15 m3/min = 0.25 m3/sec at 1 bar

calculated capacity = 27 tons/hr

air velocity begin of pipeline = 22 m/sec

air velocity end of pipeline = 40 m/sec

Then I made the same calculation for a 6”pipeline (0.145 m)

horizontal distance 7 m

vertical distance 16 m

diameter pipeline 145 mm (6”)

compressor 15 m3/min = 0.25 m3/sec at 1 bar

calculated capacity = 57 tons/hr

air velocity begin of pipeline = 10.3 m/sec

air velocity end of pipeline = 19.5 m/sec

Increasing the compressor from 15 m3/min to 20 m3/min at a 100 mm pipeline is the wrong way to go.

For a silo height of 24 m, the calculated capacity = 49 tons/hr

success

teus

Teus

Re: Fly Ash Unloading System

Posted on 26. May. 2008 - 07:08

Dear sir,

Thanks for you valuable guidelines & immediate response,

Kindly give the comp. air requirement & pressure for 24 Meter height silo from ground+7 meter horizontal distance & unloading capacity of system from bulker to silo for each point capacity 50 tons/hr.

Number of point each Silo -3 nos. therefore total capacity of unloading is 150tons/hr.

Which better option common header or individual header for unloading pipe & diameter of pipe for both options?

What is bag filter capacity for air section from the silo?

With regards,

Rajendra Patel

R.D.PATEL

Re: Fly Ash Unloading System

Posted on 26. May. 2008 - 07:08

Dear rajendra,

Calculation for a 6”pipeline (0.145 m)

horizontal distance 7 m

vertical distance 24 m

diameter pipeline 145 mm (6”)

compressor 15 m3/min = 0.25 m3/sec

Forum raj d 05-26-2008

Pressure discharge Fly-ash

Convey length = 31 m

Nu of bends= 3

Pump vol = .25 + .25 m^3/s

q-convey = 0.28 m^3/s

Dia begin = 145 mm ------Dia end = 145 mm

Kettle volume = 40.0 m^3

Fly-as vol.= 30.0 m^3

C-Vessel = 500 tons/hr

Kettle Fly-as content = 29.1 tons

Pipevolume = .51 m^3

----------Pipeline------------Syst. /Nr of .

Press----Cap-------mu-----Cap. /kettles---- v-begin-----v-end-----kWh/ton-----res.time

2.500----80--------78--------67 / 2.3---------5.7--------18.4----------0.72----------4.42

2.250----75--------73.-------64 / 2.1 --------6.1 --------18.5--------- 0.70--------- 4.19

2.000----71--------68.-------60 / 2.0 ---------6.6 -------18.6-------- 0.68 ----------3.95

1.750----66--------62.------ 57 / 1.9 ---------7.2--------18.8 -------- 0.66----------3.69

1.500----61--------56.------ 53 / 1.8 --------8.0---------18.9 ---------0.63--------- 3.42

1.250----55--------50.------ 48 / 1.6 --------8.9---------19.1----------0.61----------3.14

1.000----49--------44.------ 43 / 1.4 -------10.1---------19.3---------0.59 ----------2.85

0.750----42--------37.-------38 / 1.3--------11.7 -------19.5---------0.58 ---------- 2.54

0.500----33--------28. ------30 / 1.0---------13.9-------19.7----------0.59 ----------2.24

Empty pipeline pressure ...= 372.9 mmWC

Maximum system capacity : 67 t/hr 2.5 bar(o)

This calculation is for one separate system

3 separate system can operate in parallel.

One header with 3 feeders will result in a system that operates with different airflows from time to time and the parallel operating bulk trucks will interfere with each other.

For 3 compressors of 15 m3/min a filter of 90 m2 with a fan of 180m3/min is required, together with a silo safety valve.

Check the maximum allowable pressure of the bulk truck tanks.

Before you start building consult suppliers and/or designers.

success

teus

Teus

Re: Fly Ash Unloading System

Posted on 27. May. 2008 - 12:50

Dear sir

Thanks for you design as well recommendation.

I think, I can select following parameter.

----------Pipeline------------Syst. /Nr of .

Press----Cap-------mu-----Cap. /kettles---- v-begin-----v-end-----kWh/ton-----res.time

1.500----61--------56.------ 53 / 1.8 --------8.0---------18.9 ---------0.63--------- 3.42

Air compressor 15m3/min-1.5 bar pressure & diameter of 145mm pipe of each branch

Due to limitation for bulker design. It may be adequate the capacity.

Kindly advice.

Best with regards,

Rajendra Patel

R.D.PATEL

Re: Fly Ash Unloading System

Posted on 27. May. 2008 - 06:08

Dear rajendra,

What are the limitations of the bulker?

Is the design pressure is above 1.5 bar?

Is the bulk truck outlet big enough for a capacity of more than 50 tons/hr?

take care

teus

Teus

Re: Fly Ash Unloading System

Posted on 28. May. 2008 - 06:50

Dear sir,

I have check with the bulker supplier in our country,

Normally Bulker is design for 2.5 bar pressure.

This is the limitation for bulker.

As per your calculation using the 15m3/min, 1.5 bar pressure air compressor with pipe diameter 145 mm of each branch. The capacity of system is 53 ton/hr.

I think, it is sufficient for total unloading capacity of 125-150Ton/hr.

Kindly advice.

Regards,

Rajendra Patel

R.D.PATEL

Re: Fly Ash Unloading System

Posted on 28. May. 2008 - 08:48

Dear rajendra,

If the compressor can deliver more than 1.5 bar, there is no reason not to operate at a higher pressure.

When unloading fly ash with your system, you can set the unloading pressure f.i. at 2.25 bar (by controlling the by pass air).

The capacity will increase accordingly.

The bulk truck outlet should preferably also be 6”

We are talking about 3 separate 6”pipelines and 3 separate compressors, not connected to each other.

Also keep in mind that the calculated flyash might be different in flow behaviour from toue actual fly ash.

best regards

teus

Teus