Filter Blocking Problem

Posted in: , on 3. Apr. 2009 - 07:39

Hello all,

We recently installed a dilute phase pneumatic conveying line from our production plant to the storage silo. The material we are conveying is 5 TPH of Hydrated lime (Ca(OH)2) which comes out of the production plant at 100 deg C. It's PSD is D50 8 microns. It is conveyed using 1200 m3/hr of air at positive pressure. The conveying is without any problems. The problem is with the bag filter on the top of the silo which gets blocked frequently. The filter area is 17.6m2 and the fabric is standard polyester with liquid repellant treatment 500 gr/m2.

The cleaning device of the bags is positive pressure puffs and it working perfectly.

The bags do not look blocked. No layer of material is seen to accumulate on them.

Is the problem with the size of the filter, the material of the bags?

What should I do solve the problem of the frequent blockage of the bags ?

Amit Segev

Amit Segev

Filter Blocking Problem

Posted on 3. Apr. 2009 - 07:39

Bag filter capacity rating is about 70m3/m2/hr seems to be OK.

Only point that needs to be checked is whether the temperature of air filtered is above dew point. It it is not you may have to insulate the pipe line and dust collector casing.

You must be using dry air for positive pressure puffs. That is also necessary.

vinayak sathe 15, Rangavi Estate, Dabolim Airport 403801, Goa, India vinayak.sathe@gmail.com

Blocked Filters

Posted on 3. Apr. 2009 - 07:57

Amit,

What is the pressure of the cleaning air? It needs to be 600 - 650 kPa.

How often does the pulse of cleaning air occur? For new filters it should be approx. every 40 to 30 sec. or so, increasing in frequency as the filters age.

What is the duration of the pulse (the solenoid opening time)? Should be about 300 ms.

Is the compressed air clean and dry? Moisture will lead to blinding.

How often if frequent? What does the filter gauge read when you replace the filters?

The filter material is appropriate for this duty. The filtration velocity seems O.K for D50 8 microns.

Over-cleaning is a possibility. New filters should be allowed to build up a filter cake (dust layer) before the cleaning system is turned on. Premature cleaning can cause fine dust to blind the inner layers of the filters.

Have you talked to the bag filter supplier about this?

Michael Reid.

Re: Filter Blocking Problem

Posted on 3. Apr. 2009 - 10:24

Dear Amit,

The particle size of 8 microns is very small for a filter material.

Check with the filter material supplier, whether the porosity of the filter medium is adequate for 8 microns or less.

The suspension velocity of an 8-micron particle of hydrated lime (material density 2211 kg/m3) is approx. 0.6 m/sec.

The upward air velocity between the filter bottoms must be below that velocity, otherwise the particles will be kept in suspension between the filters.

This upward air velocity (can velocity) can be calculated from your installation drawings.

You can check this phenomenon, by starting with a clean filter and monitor the filterdrop in time.

If the filter drop has increased to a certain level, switch off the pneumatic conveying airflow and let the filter clean itself for a short period.

Then start the monitoring again.

In case the procedure is reproducible, then there is a filter problem in keeping material trapped between the filters.

The solution is then to increase the size of the filter housing and increasing the distance between the filter elements.

In addition, the filter load of 1.13 m/min seems to be rather high for an average particle suspension velocity of 0.6 m/sec.

Increasing the filter area might also be necessary to consider.

Not having information about the pneumatic conveying system itself, it is advisable to check whether the system is not operating with too high air velocities.

If that is the case, it is possible to lower the air volume, improving the filter function.

As Michael said, over cleaning is a real issue to address (controlled by cleaning pressure, cleaning frequency and cleaning pulse time)

Have a nice day

Teus

Teus

Re: Filter Blocking Problem

Posted on 4. Apr. 2009 - 02:36
Quote Originally Posted by Amit SegevView Post
...The problem is with the bag filter on the top of the silo which gets blocked frequently. .....

The cleaning device of the bags is positive pressure puffs and it working perfectly.

The bags do not look blocked. No layer of material is seen to accumulate on them.

What should I do solve the problem of the frequent blockage of the bags ?

Amit Segev

The evidence is contradictory. There must be something you are not telling us. Please try again.

Bag Filter Blokage Problem

Posted on 5. Apr. 2009 - 04:58

Thank you all for your answers:

The function of the bags in the pneumatic conveying system deteriorated in a few weeks to the state that the bags are completely blocked and have to be replaced.

We are conveying 5 TPH of hydrated lime straight from the exit of the production plant using a Robuschi blower (dilute phase) supplying 1200 m3/hr of air.

The bag house dimensions are 1.0mX1.0mX1.540m(length of bags).

25 bags, dia 0.147m 1.540 m long, 5 bags by 5 bags.

Giving filtration area of 17.6 m2 and a velocity of 1.13 m/min through the bags.

The bags are standard polyester 500gr/m2, passed a liquid repellant treatment.

I also calculated the velocity of the air in the bag house in the free area outside the bags to be 0.8 m/sec.

Bag cleaning system: reverse jet, 6 bar, 500 mili-seconds pulse once every 35 seconds to each row of bags.

Our hydrated lime is around 0.7%-1.0% humidity and it's PSD is D50=8 microns, D90=150 microns.

What was wrong in the design (we did the design ourselves)?

Amit

Amit Segev

Re: Filter Blocking Problem

Posted on 5. Apr. 2009 - 06:26

Dear Amit,

The filter bags are rather long, which may cause the particles to be sucked against the filter again before they are fallen down underneath the bag.

I calculated thecan velocity between the filter bags as follows.

Bag house area = 1 m2

Cross area of filter bags: 25 * pi/4 * 0.142^2 = 0.396 m2

Free area between bags = 1 – 0.396 = 0.604 m2

Can velocity = 1200/3600 / 0.604 = 0.55 m/sec (instead of your 0.8 m/sec)

As Mr vinayak stated, the temperature in the filter house must be above dew point temperature.

The intake conditions of the compressor + the water content in the hydrated lime determine the amount of water, present in the baghouse.

Suppose the bag house conditions are the intake air conditions of 25 degrC at 100% RH + 5000/100 * 0.85 kg water from the hydrated lime.

Then the baghouse temperature has to be maintained above 41 degrC, to avoid condensation.

However, when the injected pulse air is not properly dried and because of rapid expansion cools down below the dew point temperature, the possibility of water condensation in the filter material becomes suddenly real. This process may well develop over a longer period.

Microscopic research on the failed filters is now advised.

Success

Teus

Teus

Re: Filter Blocking Problem

Posted on 15. Apr. 2009 - 09:03

Hi All,

A question-

What is with the suspension velocity?

There will be allways some % of the particles that all smaller then their suspension velocity. will they allways be picked up and returned to thebag filter?

Please advice.

Amit

Amit Segev

Re: Filter Blocking Problem

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Pulsed Jet Filter System

Posted on 2. Aug. 2009 - 07:49

For temperatures which exceed the range of available cloth bag filters, consider metal filters which go as fine as HEPA range and are pulsed-jet cleanable. Systems are available that pulse when a programmed differential pressure is reached, eliminating much of the guesswork about timing between cleaning cycles. Information is available at www.porvairfiltration.com .