Overland Conveyor Horizontal Curve

Posted in: , on 18. May. 2016 - 14:48

Good day,

Nowadays, i got several confusion about the influence factors of overland conveyor horizontal curve radius and verticle curve radius. It would be best if u can help me to explain the relevant resons.

Highly appreciate in advance.

Best regards.

HQC company

Mechanical department.

AdairStar

lls1990928777@qq.com

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Posted on 18. May. 2016 - 01:14

Thank u,my friend,

Even though i can't open the online page from u due to the saudi network unavailable but also appreciate for your help.

HQC Company

Mechanical Department.

Political Influence As Usual

Posted on 19. May. 2016 - 10:25

Overland conveyor curvature is often confused by pre-FEED ignorance and reticence. Read some of the posts in these forums and you will notice the reluctance of curvature exponents to commit to analyses.

Ignorance: In KSA I discovered where an original tube belt was substituted by a troughed belt without regard for curvature change. Nobody could tell me the reasons for the tighter bends. My own detective work revealed that Kinder Morgan had advised Technip Roma that pet coke could be carried on troughed belt rather than the more expensive tube belt. The FEED was changed accordingly, without even examining the curvature implications, and when the Main Contractor, another clown, was advised by his knowledgeable sub-Contractor that the thing wouldn't fit in the designated corridor it was too late. Technip had got paid for a silly FEED and walked off the job. How's that for confusion?

Reticence: In another job the FEED, dare I mention Technip again, had been prepared where the overland conveyor carried ore downhill and waste was carried back along the same route by trucks. The Client was immersed in mining failure and refused to accept that the more plentiful waste should be carried on the otherwise empty strand of the overland. The Client hastily cooked up a scheme to discredit the proposal on the basis of more expensive cut and fill requirements. Slight deviations to the topography could have reduced the civil work: both for the bi-directional proposal and even the original FEED works.

The simple answer is to get someone who knows what he's doing: no more, no less. If the mathematics are right the job has a chance.

John Gateley johngateley@hotmail.com www.the-credible-bulk.com

Roland Heilmann
(not verified)

Effects To Causes

Posted on 20. May. 2016 - 07:37

Dear Sir,

for a first you could start with the relevant sections of CEMA and DIN 22101. From this on you are welcome to explain which specific reasons for confusion present your issue.

However:

Am I correct that your homebase is rather to be found here: http://www.hq-sm.com/about-hqc/compa...file/index.htm ?

Pls. be more specific on the causes of your interest, is there an installation that intrigues you, or is there an operational issue like belt misalignment or other?

Hello John,

thank you for the insights, it's always a breath of fresh air!!

;-) pet coke is perhaps the correctly guessed background, it is hot and smells of sulphur ...

Kind regards

R.

Coker Coaler

Posted on 20. May. 2016 - 12:12

Hi Roland,

Yes. This was green coke extracted by water jet cutting but it was still pretty warm and aromatic. I would have thought that the application was well suited to SSCC's because the material could be fed directly onto a store-bound conveyor without the need for such a large soaking pit. Whatever: submerged scraper chain conveyors are universal for power station bottom ash disposal and the pet coke duty is amazingly similar.

What has this got to do with curvature?

John Gateley johngateley@hotmail.com www.the-credible-bulk.com

Roland Heilmann
(not verified)

Sulphur & Co

Posted on 23. May. 2016 - 07:39

Hello John,

it is just, on a lighter note, an allusion to the perceived (by me) disproportion between the generality of the OP's question and his / her assumed background, which is one of the major ( & state owned) mainland chinese technology cores. In my native language, "smelling of sulphur" is a metaphor for an overtone which might bearing some heavier importance and seems just perceivable but is not (yet) out in the open to be clearly seen.

I would not like to serve "someone" a "technical" argument which will probably be only half digested anyway and perhaps used to thrash some poor subsupplier which in the end rather deserved a better principal...

Concluding, I'm pretty sure we shall never hear again from this person whichdidn't even cough up some name or some signature or the courage to log in as a guest.

Kind Regards

R.