Schenck Process Group Exciters

benzbenz
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Posted in: , on 5. Apr. 2009 - 19:26

Hi guys,

I'm having some problems of getting the Schenck Process Group exciters cheap, do any of you know who have sub parts for this or where can I get it cheap?

short of budget of running this machine,I'll be appreciated if anyone can forward me the solution.

Regards

Steven

Re: Schenck Process Group Exciters

Posted on 5. Apr. 2009 - 11:12

I think these units are in-house rather than bought-in units.

Being Schenck they'll not be cheap (high spare parts mark-up).

If you can strip one down you might be able to reverse engineer it, but that won't be cheap for a one off.

benzbenz
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Untitled

Posted on 6. Apr. 2009 - 02:48

Yeah Designer I do agree with you, this were all the problems begain.

If I am getting from a dealer they charging heaps after so many hands. Do you think they will sell direct, do you think is that difficult to find them? I am sure like car maker don't make all the parts, they assembles them. Is this the case too?

Re: Schenck Process Group Exciters

Posted on 6. Apr. 2009 - 02:56

Will they sell direct,

Unlikely as most manufacturers have legally binding agency agreements that would prevent this.

Maybe you have a friend in Germany who could buy the parts for you?

benzbenz
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Re: Schenck Process Group Exciters

Posted on 8. Apr. 2009 - 04:30

I think products is made in Australia not in German, and is not possible buy there.

I feel like get one and strip it and get it home made, is not that hard to copy. I just been lazy and don't want to spend time thats all.

inthegame
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Schenck

Posted on 14. Apr. 2009 - 10:27

Exciter parts are made in Australia, mainly through company's on the East Coast.

I'd be reluctant to reverse Engineer exciter parts due to the fact that there are very particular specifications. Reverse engineering to incorrect specs could result in catastrophic failure of the exciter unit.

I'd be more inclined to contact them direct and play hard ball to get the right price, you are right their spare parts margin is through the roof, your best bet would be to get the exciter overhauled by Schenck or get a service exchange unit.

Don't be tight. Get a unit from them and get the warranty to back yourself.

Contact Mick +61 (08) 9494 6700

benzbenz
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Inthegame

Posted on 19. Apr. 2009 - 01:28

thanks inthegame fort he reply,

and do you has mikes email? if I buy it in quantity do you think they will offering fair discounted price?

thanks eveyrone withthe help, i let you ppl know the update soon. so do i mentioning you inthegame to the mike guy? he knows who you are?

Re: Schenck Process Group Exciters

Posted on 19. Apr. 2009 - 12:02

You didn't say what its used on.

Maybe rather than reverse engineer the assembly, you look for an alternative assembly to provide the same functionality.

I wish you luck on getting a discount from a German company. Usually it's all catalogues and price lists with salesman only able to take your order on their terms, particularly on replacement parts.

benzbenz
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Posted on 19. Apr. 2009 - 01:28

Hi designer,

user "inthegame" it seems provided me with an solution conacting some friends of him in the company. thanks anyway I will see what happen next week. will keep it post.

cheers

Notso25
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Schenk Exciters

Posted on 22. Apr. 2009 - 04:37

We used to make parts for DF7 DF6 and DF 3 Schenc exciters.

Weight: Profile cut from mild steel plate maybe 150 or so thick. Need to machine the curve on borer to get weight right

Shafts: Need to discuss fit with Bearing manufacturer as fits critical on shaft and also on the housing. As I recall it the DF7 had to have a brass cage bearing with outter ring riding cage. The ORR is important bit and at the time it was the case that the brass were the only ones ORR. So brass itself wasnt critical but ORR was. DF6 has spherical rollers and that then irrelevant. Latest DF7's likely to be spherical rather than cylindrical rollers.

The fixing of the flingers to the shafts and the grease labryinth tolerances are important. You cant afford for them to come loose.

Must crack test the housings and check bores for ovality tolerance to Brg Manuf specs. THe Shaft tolerances also set by BRG people specs. Recommend SKF and FAG as they have a lot of experience at this. SKF has a good aprox 10 page publication on screen bearings.

You must measure all the keys etc holding things on shafts as they have to be properly fitted. You can check fit with bearing blue.

NB the oil level in these babies is critical and they use a synthetic oil - Shell or someone can advise. The quantity of oil is small so beathers etc are very important as is the assembly with grease. The manual will tell you the oil qty depending on angle

If test running with weights you need a substantial test rig as there is a lot of start up torque and it will bounce like a beauty on shut down.

Gears are hardened and ground and you should crack test these and check the contact with blue. A big mess is made when the gears fail.

Inside of casing should be painted with an oil tolerant paint to bind up any grit.

If you are running the exciters your self an oil analysis monitoring program will let you know when you should be thinking of a change out.

benzbenz
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Thanks For The Help

Posted on 23. Apr. 2009 - 01:26

thanks for give me so detaile information, I think is just easier negotiate with the company and buy from them direct if they can compete in pricing. The reason i try get alternative parts is the price has rise 1/3 since 2006.

Why you guys not making for them anymore?

Re: Schenck Process Group Exciters

Posted on 23. Apr. 2009 - 10:55
Quote Originally Posted by benzbenzView Post
Why you guys not making for them anymore?

Maybe they're being made in the back streets of China

benzbenz
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Haha

Posted on 24. Apr. 2009 - 07:21

I dont care where is made as long as do the good job and with warranty.. but again if manufacture are the ones give back street operation the chance by setting up so high. If the price were close people would still buy from the company. This goes same for all the microsoft products, i use a copy version of xp.. do the good job and i only pay 10USD for it.

Re: Schenck Process Group Exciters

Posted on 24. Apr. 2009 - 09:23
Quote Originally Posted by benzbenzView Post
I dont care where is made as long as do the good job and with warranty.. but again if manufacture are the ones give back street operation the chance by setting up so high. If the price were close people would still buy from the company. This goes same for all the microsoft products, i use a copy version of xp.. do the good job and i only pay 10USD for it.

Your copy of XP is ILLEGAL!

Nobody wrote a copy of XP from the ground up for you to buy at 10USD, they took a MS product and illegally hacked and copied it which in most countries is criminal.

I think I'll report your post so your details can be reported to the MS fraud division to follow up!

benzbenz
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Do You Know What Is Open Software ?Designer?

Posted on 25. Apr. 2009 - 12:51

.Linux is an open software and it is free to everyone, you can modify the window according your needs and is open program. Where as micro isn't, my friend got a warning from micro because he Challenged bill gates when he doing a speech.. and got fined and fired in his company as well as got a black listed from all software company..

mate, what micro doing is monopoly. it should be perfect competition

Re: Schenck Process Group Exciters

Posted on 25. Apr. 2009 - 12:34

Open source is open source. Windows XP isn't!

If you don't want to pay for Windows XP use another operating system. Nobody from Microsoft stands you against a wall, takes money out of your packet and replaces it with a copy of XP.

IT WAS YOUR CHOICE TO USE AN ILLEGAL COPY.

Come back here and tell me you've removed the ILLEGAL copy of XP from your machine and replaced it Linux. Don't try justifying the use of illegal software.

Or maybe you operate in one of those countries where cracking and copying is just a normal part of everyday life.

benzbenz
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Re: Schenck Process Group Exciters

Posted on 29. Apr. 2009 - 09:13

yeah.i m using linux already is very easy to use.... not bad

Re: Schenck Process Group Exciters

Posted on 27. Jul. 2009 - 11:52

To make parts for an exciter is relatively easy - installation dwg, bearing size and few dimension will be sufficient to design and fabricate any part for the exciter you want.

Regards

Ziggy

Ziggy Gregory www.vibfem.com.au

Re: Schenck Process Group Exciters

Posted on 24. Apr. 2010 - 05:44

Hi benzbenz ,

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