Flyash conveying

Posted in: , on 16. Apr. 2008 - 15:26

COULD YOU HELP ME IN MY PROBLEM

Our project has to convey 60 t/hr of flyash over a distance of 1000 meters. One of the vendor has indicated a screw compressor motor rating of 525 kw .I FEEL IT IS TOO HIGH Can anyone have any view on this.

Further I would be using the same set up to convey the same amount of ash over 100 meters whenever required.In that case what would be the kw drawn by the motor.

Can I use different unload pressure settings to tackle these situations ?

I am not getting proper answers to these question

That is why i am requesting forum members to guide me

Thanking you in advance.

Regards

M S PRABHUDESAI

Re: Flyash Conveying

Posted on 16. Apr. 2008 - 08:16

Dear Mr Prabhudesai,

derived from your information:

A screw compressor with internal compression of 525 kW can deliver 120 m3/min at 2.5 bar.

For flyash (approx. 50 microns) an end velocity of 16 m/sec should be sufficient

The pipe line diameter is then 0.393 m (16 inch)

Using my program for flyash (may be not your type of flyash) I get the following result:

Forum mspd d 04-16-2008

Pressure discharge Fly-ash

Convey length = 1000 m

Nu of bends= 10

Pump vol = 2 + 2 m^3/s

q-convey = 2.21 m^3/s

Dia begin = 393 mm Dia end = 393 mm

Kettle volume = 40.0 m^3

Fly-as vol.= 35.0 m^3

C-Vessel = 1000 tons/hr

Kettle Fly-as content = 34.0 tons

Pipevolume = 121.3 m^3

-----------Pipeline---------Syst. /Nr of .

Press.--- Cap---- mu------Cap. /kettles ----- v-begin-----v-end ---kWh/ton ---- res.time

2.500----189------23-------152 / 4.4----------- 5.8--------- 19.1 ----- 2.45--------132.18

2.250----182------22.------149 / 4.3------------6.3----------19.3----- 2.34 ------- 123.72

2.000----173------20.------145 / 4.2 ---------- 6.9 ----------19.5 ---- 2.24 ------- 115.15

1.750----163------19.------140 / 4.1-----------7.5 ----------19.7 ------2.14------- 106.59

1.500----152------17.------133 / 3.9-----------8.4 ----------19.9-------2.04--------97.99

1.250----139------16.------125 / 3.6----------- 9.4 --------- 20.2-------1.95 ------ 89.28

1.000----124------14.------113 / 3.3---------10.8------------20.5------1.89 ------ 80.57

0.750----103------11. -------97 / 2.8---------12.6------------20.8------1.88-------71.72

Empty pipeline pressure ...= 1506.5 mmWC

Maximum system capacity : 152 t/hr 2.5 bar(o)

In case you require only 60 tons/hr, this installation is oversized.

(Other combinations of air volume, pressure and pipesize may give a better solution)

For the shorter distance (100m) it might be worth considering a smaller compressor and a smaller pipe.

A big advantage will be the smaller filter area in the receiver.

The above is only to be considered as a rough indication, based on very limited information.

The real installation should be properly designed and built by a competent manufacturer.

Success

Teus

Fly Ash Conveying

Posted on 17. Apr. 2008 - 02:23

Dear Mr Teus Tuinenburg

Thank you very much for your kind reply

I have some further querries

1) What could be the optimum motor size for this application

2) What would be the power consumed (kw ) while conveying at avery much shorter distance of 100 meters

YOUR REPLY WOULD HELP ME IMMENSLY IN MY PROJECT WORK

Regards

M S PRABHUDESAI

Fly Ash Conveying

Posted on 17. Apr. 2008 - 03:26

Dear Mr Teus Tuinenburg

Further

1) what happens if the pipe size is reduced with the same compressor to reduce the capacity to desired 60 tph ? Obviously the velocity will increase but will the system work propely?

2) Is not there a correct combination of pipe size and power requirement depending on the capacity and the distance ?

Regards

M S Prabhudesai

Re: Flyash Conveying

Posted on 17. Apr. 2008 - 07:59

Dear Mr.Prabhudesai,

Optimum motor size for 60 tons/hr over 1 km:

In the previous calculation a 525 kW compressor could deliver 152 tons/hr

For 60 tons/hr a motor of 60/152 * 525 = approx. 220 kW is necessary (with a different pipe size and filters)

A recalculation should be done by the vendor.

At a shorter distance, the used energy for the same capacity is less, but maintaining the airflow will be resulting in an oversized installation (also the filters).

The shorter distance should be designed separately.

Reducing the pipe size with the same compressor will reduce the capacity, increase the energy consumption per conveyed ton and increases the wear of the pipeline and valves.

(If fed correctly it will function)

By iterative designing, a correct combination of pipe size, air volume, pressure, capacity, power requirement can be designed for a certain distance.

Experts needed!

take care

Teus

Fly Ash Conveying

Posted on 18. Apr. 2008 - 08:26

Dear Mr Teus Tuinenburg

Thank you very much for your valuable suggestions .I understand the matter better now .

I am not thinking of seperate compressors for conveying to shorter distance because projects authorities felt it will be additional expediture though with present concept there should not be any technical problems as such for conveying over shorter distance

WITH REGARDS

M S Prabhudesai