Maximum Belt Speed

Posted in: , on 29. Mar. 2010 - 12:43

Dear Mr./Mrs.

I’m looking for a coorelation between different parameters in belt conveyor design to find maximum belt speed. I’ve just found something like that in CEMA ver.6 (Eq. 3.7 & 3.8) for spillage and slip-back, but it’s clear that these equations are wrong. Could you help me to know if there are some equations to solve my problem?

I’m designing material handling system of a steel making plant that the main belt conveyor transfers DRI, Lime, Coke, and Additives in the rate of 720t/h.

Best Regards

Mohsen Mirzaei Fashami

Mechanical engineer

Re: Maximum Belt Speed

Posted on 29. Mar. 2010 - 12:56
Quote Originally Posted by MOHSENView Post
but it’s clear that these equations are wrong.

How and why?

Re: Maximum Belt Speed

Posted on 29. Mar. 2010 - 03:51

The speed is highly dependent on your design criteria. Dust control, spillage control, belt tracking, et al.

Your tonnage is very light. Speed should not be the limiting factor. Once the conveyor width falls below 700 mm, there are dimishing returns to go faster. In addition, the conveyor length and geometry needs to be understood.

To control dust, noise, spillage, and belt capacity the densities, particle sizes, feed and receiving conveyor together with their chute geometries need to be given. Chute geometry design goes with the belt width selection and belt speed.

Thus, there are many details that govern the selections.

Lawrence Nordell Conveyor Dynamics, Inc. website, email & phone contacts: www.conveyor-dynamics.com nordell@conveyor-dynamics.com phone: USA 360-671-2200 fax: USA 360-671-8450

Re: Maximum Belt Speed

Posted on 30. Mar. 2010 - 07:09
Quote Originally Posted by designerView Post
How and why?

Thanks Mr/Mrs for your kind attention

above mentioned equations have some faults as below:

-height of fall

-unit of right hand isn't in [m/s] (diffenece in unit of right and left hand)

best regards

Mirzaei

Re: Maximum Belt Speed

Posted on 30. Mar. 2010 - 07:09

Thanks dear Mr. Nordell for your kind attention.

data are as below:

-conveyor slope=12 [deg]

-belt sag in upper strand=2%

-carry idler pitch=800mm! (as tender)

+++++++

material handled-------- bulk density[t/m3]--------lump size[mm]

Burnt Lime-------------------------1------------------20-50

Alloy--------------------------------2------------------10-50

DRI--------------------------------1.7------------------6-25

Dolomite-------------------------1.7------------------20-50

FeMn ---------------------------- 4--------------------10-50

.

.

Lumpy Coke--------------------0.8-------------------20-50

+++++++

max. height of fall=3m

I need a proved equation.

best regards

Mirzaei

Re: Maximum Belt Speed

Posted on 30. Mar. 2010 - 01:29

We do not use a "proved equation" to determine the necessary attribute of loading chute and receiving conveyor. We apply the requested information sent to you, and apply Discrete Element Modeling (DEM) procedures to determine product stability, et al.

The DEM code integrates all necessary functions and behaviors to render a acceptable solution.

Lawrence Nordell Conveyor Dynamics, Inc. website, email & phone contacts: www.conveyor-dynamics.com nordell@conveyor-dynamics.com phone: USA 360-671-2200 fax: USA 360-671-8450

Re: Maximum Belt Speed

Posted on 30. Mar. 2010 - 02:08

thanks for your kind attention Mr. Nordell

I dont have this software to solve my problem but I'm so interested in to find out this method. Could you refer me to some refrences of it? how can I have this software? I've done my MSc. thesis in numerical simulation of erosion in curved surfaces exposed to particle-gas flow.

best regards

Re: Maximum Belt Speed

Posted on 31. Mar. 2010 - 01:01
Quote Originally Posted by MOHSENView Post
how can I have this software?

I'm sure Mr Nordell could arrange to sell you a copy

Max Belt Speed In Steel Plant

Posted on 13. Apr. 2010 - 04:35

Dear Mr. Mohsen

you consider that the max belt speed is 2 m/s that common used in steel plant and if you want design belt conveyor you can use below reference.

1- CEMA

2- DIN 22101

3- Conveying machine

If you have any question you can mail me

mehdiohadi@yahoo.com

Best regards

ohadi

Re: Maximum Belt Speed

Posted on 9. Jul. 2010 - 06:31
Quote Originally Posted by MOHSENView Post
Dear Mr./Mrs.

I’m looking for a coorelation between different parameters in belt conveyor design to find maximum belt speed. I’ve just found something like that in CEMA ver.6 (Eq. 3.7 & 3.8) for spillage and slip-back, but it’s clear that these equations are wrong.

The first print of the 6th edition is full of mistakes. There is a free correction pdf available for download on the CEMA website. Without having looked into the specific equations that you mention above, maybe this correction file helps you.

(DEM is a good idea, though.)

High Speed Conveyors

Posted on 10. Jul. 2010 - 04:32

The question has many answers as is evident by the responses.

CEMA has not made such a comprehensive assessment of the general formulae. Much of modern design criteria is vested in those designing and evaluating designs who approach the edge of what is known.

There are conveyors operating at up to 15 m/s. Such high speed are not considered normal. Even half this speed is considered high.

There are times which it is appropriate and times it is not. The selection process is not a diatribe for the forum. So much apriori knowledge about the needs and politics must go before you explore any limits.

If you are not seeking limits, then what are you seeking?

Lawrence Nordell Conveyor Dynamics, Inc. website, email & phone contacts: www.conveyor-dynamics.com nordell@conveyor-dynamics.com phone: USA 360-671-2200 fax: USA 360-671-8450

Maximum Belt Speed

Posted on 14. Jan. 2011 - 06:41

Dear Sir,

How people are comfortable with CEMA 6th. edition, I do not know. But for selection of belt speed I can suggest the following.

1. For Burnt lime............... 1.0 m/sec max.

2. For Coke........................ 1.2 to max. 1.5 m/sec

3.For other materials you may select based on the guide line given in your stabdard.

Regards.

A.Banerjee

Maximum Belt Speed

Posted on 14. Jan. 2011 - 06:47

Dear Sir,

How people are comportable with CEMA 6th. edition, I do not know. But please follow the following belt speed as given below.

1. For Burnt lime .................1.0 m/sec

2. For coke................. 1.2 to 1.5 m/sec max.

Regards.

A.Banerjee