Assuming you are referring to the Tsubaki elevator-

Its a bucket elevator with no spacers between buckets-meaning continuos scooping at all times and the discharge being continuos is induced by the rotation over the top sprocket.

lzaharis ■

You can get everything from them through the home page- as thay have made chains for many years for just about every heavy application-they do not build junk.

continuos flight bucket elevators really took off when they were adapted for grain lightering in port with extended boom arms as it damaged the grain much less than constantly rehandling with a rubber tired loader pushing it everywhere.

They do not show much to begin with but you will find the chains used for the elevators quickly in thier catalog. You can ask for an information package right at thier home page or find the local distributor in your area with ease as they all have web addresses.

lzaharis ■

I don't understand what is meant by Induction Discharge. What then is the difference between induction and gravity discharge? If induction means continuous, gravity discharge is also continuous! I have checked with various reknown manufacturers, they can't understand either. ■

Originally Posted by alphatec

I don't understand what is meant by Induction Discharge. What then is the difference between induction and gravity discharge? If induction means continuous, gravity discharge is also continuous! I have checked with various reknown manufacturers, they can't understand either.

Taking the word induce literally it means to "cause something to occur"; which a bucket elevator does by scooping and lifting a material and then dumping the material when the bucket reaches the top of the elevator and then it proceeds downward to enter the elevator pit to continue scoopiing the material.

I hope that clarification is adequate for you as the mechanical lift creates the ability to discharge at a higher elevation using gravity. ■

Until I came across it here I had NEVER heard of the term "Induction Discharge type Bucket Elevator".

Searching the net I found the reference to it on the Tsubaki web site, but the page was devoid of any significant information on what they mean by "Induction Discharge". If anyone has any definitive Tsubaki information on this type of bucket elevator perhaps they could post it.

Or maybe it's just a bit of a marketing ploy to fool the uninitiated that their machine is "special" while in fact it's nothing but what another dozen companies supply under different names e.g. Continuous Bucket, Positive Discharge.

The term "wool over eyes" comes to mind ■

Tsubakis Inc. use of the word induced is simply taking the literal use of the word induce(d)/to create, force, channel, to direct so to speak, etc and using it to describe the "rotary motion lift of the bucket elevator" created by mechanical rather than "gravity" means to discharge material with the fewest words possible.

and the gravity discharge.

This is simply wording of the advertisement and what is creating the missunderstanding.

lzaharis





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Originally Posted by lzaharis

Tsubakis Inc. use of the word induced is simply taking the literal use of the word induce(d)/to create, force, channel, to direct so to speak, etc and using it to describe the "rotary motion lift of the bucket elevator" created by mechanical rather than "gravity" means to discharge material with the fewest words possible.

and the gravity discharge.

This is simply wording of the advertisement and what is creating the missunderstanding.

lzaharis

So it's wool over the eyes, mere marketing 'puff', trying to make something out of nothing.

All a bit sad really, why not just use established descriptions, they must be a bit hard up to have to resort to that.

I always remember a meeting with the local Tsubaki rep some years ago when he "presented" (in quite a formal manner) a transmission chain catalogue which I flicked through and then gave back as not being of much interest to me. After picking himself up off the floor he asked why I didn't want it and I told him there were no power selection charts included so I couldn't select a drive from it. His response was amazing, "oh that's engineering data and we don't include that in the chain catalogue". I said goodbye and he left. ■

actually its the japanese use of the english language which is what it finally filters out to as they have a smaller alphabet if my serves me correctly and so a lot of our english words must be compressed into the best translation for them to use properly.

about your visit with the tsbaki rep its customary for them to have preliminary literature and progress forward withh any client which is or was the normal way of doing business from what I remember as the protocols are very strict in the way business is done in steps from a to z.

Its really no different than how escape planning from skyscrapers is accomplished over yonder as the analysis they perfom is s huge decision tree accounting of every possible situation or possible emergency during an escape from a fire-thats why so few people have died in skyscrapers over there as all the personell are trained and retrained in what they must do to escape quiccly in th event of a fire or earthquake.

It is the same reason that there has never been a fatality or collision on the bullet train system since its start almost 51 years ago. the trains run only during daylight and early evening and the overnights are maintenance and repair with no exceptions.

The last earthquake they had did a lot of damage to the bullet train network but no fatalities or collisions occured due to the earthquake failsafe and overide systems. ■

It would be nice to have a definitive Tsubaki response rather than our supposition, but I think it's unlikely to be forthcoming.

And Zebedee said "it's time for bed" ■