Flotation Column Cell Level Control

Posted in: , on 25. Feb. 2008 - 11:06

Dear Bulcoholics,

We have some problems with our column flotation cell froth-pulp interface level control where the froth-pulp interface is measured by differential pressure sensors in the column cell. This concern is raised due to surges of flows within the column cell. These surges result in unstable operation and loss of recovery.

Any advisory or reference to similar experience in this regard is greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Babak Houdeh

Re: Flotation Column Cell Level Control

Posted on 25. Feb. 2008 - 01:02

If your mineral is non-magnetic you should be able to use a set of the old Mobray float switches.

If your conditions are magnetic then you need to set up a derivative controller on what you've already got fitted.

Are your present sensors in a level bottle & bridle arrangement?

John Gateley johngateley@hotmail.com www.the-credible-bulk.com

Re: Flotation Column Cell Level Control

Posted on 25. Feb. 2008 - 01:02

If your mineral is non-magnetic you should be able to use a set of the old Mobray float switches.

If your conditions are magnetic then you need to set up a derivative controller on what you've already got fitted.

Are your present sensors in a level bottle & bridle arrangement?

John Gateley johngateley@hotmail.com www.the-credible-bulk.com

Re: Flotation Column Cell Level Control

Posted on 25. Feb. 2008 - 04:17

The mineral is copper ore pulp and the pressure transmitters are type PTS platinum standard series. The sensors are located at different levels on the column cell wall.

Would you please explain your mean by level bottle & bridle arrangement?

Re: Flotation Column Cell Level Control

Posted on 25. Feb. 2008 - 04:17

The mineral is copper ore pulp and the pressure transmitters are type PTS platinum standard series. The sensors are located at different levels on the column cell wall.

Would you please explain your mean by level bottle & bridle arrangement?

Re: Flotation Column Cell Level Control

Posted on 28. Feb. 2008 - 01:34

Level bottle & bridle is the norm in vessel instrumentation mounting. Fluid level is monitored & controlled by entraining fluid in a vertical chamber, bottle, connected to the vessel wall by a pair of vertically disposed flanged nozzles, bridle. It is a standard method in pressure vessel design but probably too rich for the blood of mineral process equipment designers.

John Gateley johngateley@hotmail.com www.the-credible-bulk.com

Re: Flotation Column Cell Level Control

Posted on 28. Feb. 2008 - 01:34

Level bottle & bridle is the norm in vessel instrumentation mounting. Fluid level is monitored & controlled by entraining fluid in a vertical chamber, bottle, connected to the vessel wall by a pair of vertically disposed flanged nozzles, bridle. It is a standard method in pressure vessel design but probably too rich for the blood of mineral process equipment designers.

John Gateley johngateley@hotmail.com www.the-credible-bulk.com

MarkMorton
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Pulp Interface

Posted on 1. Apr. 2008 - 03:29

Mr. Houdeh,

We have had good results using two Probe LU ultrasonic transmitters and a target plate. One transmitter directly monitors the pulp height and the second measures the target plate. The plate is connected to a float that rides on the liquid surface. Please see the link for more information: https://pia.khe.siemens.com/efiles/f...efiningen.pdf

Mark

MarkMorton
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Pulp Interface

Posted on 1. Apr. 2008 - 03:29

Mr. Houdeh,

We have had good results using two Probe LU ultrasonic transmitters and a target plate. One transmitter directly monitors the pulp height and the second measures the target plate. The plate is connected to a float that rides on the liquid surface. Please see the link for more information: https://pia.khe.siemens.com/efiles/f...efiningen.pdf

Mark

Image Based Level Sensor

Posted on 29. Jan. 2009 - 06:36

Hi Babak,

I was recently involved in implementing a novel 'image based level sensor' at a major oilsands company in Northern Alberta, Canada. This is totally non intrusive, so does not depend on the properties of the stream. Also, it can be implemented without disturbing your current setup. It has given fantastic results and has been in operation for about 6 months now. I wonder if this application could solve your problem. I can send you more information if you're interested.

Oilmaniac

Image Based Level Sensor

Posted on 29. Jan. 2009 - 06:36

Hi Babak,

I was recently involved in implementing a novel 'image based level sensor' at a major oilsands company in Northern Alberta, Canada. This is totally non intrusive, so does not depend on the properties of the stream. Also, it can be implemented without disturbing your current setup. It has given fantastic results and has been in operation for about 6 months now. I wonder if this application could solve your problem. I can send you more information if you're interested.

Oilmaniac

Untitled

Posted on 18. May. 2009 - 08:26

ultrasonic transmitters and a target plate with float will work for copper

Best Regards, Shyam Prasad India.

Untitled

Posted on 18. May. 2009 - 08:26

ultrasonic transmitters and a target plate with float will work for copper

Best Regards, Shyam Prasad India.
chinaoilpainting
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Re: Flotation Column Cell Level Control

Posted on 8. Feb. 2010 - 07:57

Non-magnetic, you can use Mobray float switches

chinaoilpainting
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Re: Flotation Column Cell Level Control

Posted on 8. Feb. 2010 - 07:57

Non-magnetic, you can use Mobray float switches

Raymond

Posted on 9. Feb. 2010 - 12:26

Hi Guys,

We have just done a number of concentrators with a level instrument that completely ignores foam. I know that the ball and float arrangement with an ultrasonic transmitter has been a very popular method to date, we have however been able to get much better results with our system and complete stability on levels. We are successfully using the system in Platinum, Copper and Coal Concentrators, we also have it installed in Gold reactors and have had huge success with sump levels as well due to the fact that the instruments are completely noise immune. Accuracy and Linearity are quoted as being 1%. No maintenance of the system is required. Incidentally column flotation is also not a problem. The only drawback is that the maximum level that can be measured is 2.5 meters from the brim of the vessel. Should you require any further info, please feel free to contact me direct on info@instek.co.za

Raymond

Posted on 9. Feb. 2010 - 12:26

Hi Guys,

We have just done a number of concentrators with a level instrument that completely ignores foam. I know that the ball and float arrangement with an ultrasonic transmitter has been a very popular method to date, we have however been able to get much better results with our system and complete stability on levels. We are successfully using the system in Platinum, Copper and Coal Concentrators, we also have it installed in Gold reactors and have had huge success with sump levels as well due to the fact that the instruments are completely noise immune. Accuracy and Linearity are quoted as being 1%. No maintenance of the system is required. Incidentally column flotation is also not a problem. The only drawback is that the maximum level that can be measured is 2.5 meters from the brim of the vessel. Should you require any further info, please feel free to contact me direct on info@instek.co.za

Re: Flotation Column Cell Level Control

Posted on 26. Feb. 2010 - 10:16

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Re: Flotation Column Cell Level Control

Posted on 26. Feb. 2010 - 10:16

Here is a link about Column flotation method. Wish it helpful for you.

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