Can anyone help identify this type of paddle?

Posted in: , on 15. Apr. 2017 - 00:58

Hello -

I have a horizontal paddle-type mixer with metal "lattice" attached to the paddles (see photo). Much of the lattice has worn away...searching for a bigger mixer of the same variety, but have no idea of the proper nomenclature for these type paddles. It might be a home-made one-off.

Any ideas as to what to call 'em would be appreciated. Thanx!

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Shaolin

Posted on 16. Apr. 2017 - 05:44

As a first suggestion I would look for a nameplate. It is possible that the manufacturer is out of business or not manufacturing this gadget any more.

A second suggestion is that seeing how the lattices wear within themselves but are still attached to the flat-bar frames then the frames are running over a peripheral dead region and are clear on the inside of the trough. Sort of expected.

If you cannot get an equipment name in these forums I encourage you to consult a highly skilled mixing practitioner, none better than AJAX Equipment, who may be able to offer you a solution which will give better mixing and longer life.

How come your firm didn't consider a multi-blade ribbon in the first place?

John Gateley johngateley@hotmail.com www.the-credible-bulk.com

Re: Can Anyone Help Identify This Type Of Paddle?

Posted on 17. Apr. 2017 - 03:38
Quote Originally Posted by johngateleyView Post
As a first suggestion I would look for a nameplate. It is possible that the manufacturer is out of business or not manufacturing this gadget any more.

A second suggestion is that seeing how the lattices wear within themselves but are still attached to the flat-bar frames then the frames are running over a peripheral dead region and are clear on the inside of the trough. Sort of expected.

If you cannot get an equipment name in these forums I encourage you to consult a highly skilled mixing practitioner, none better than AJAX Equipment, who may be able to offer you a solution which will give better mixing and longer life.

How come your firm didn't consider a multi-blade ribbon in the first place?

Father/Son business. Mixer has been a fixture forever, but I've only been involved for a few years. Can't find a nameplate anywhere on the machine - It HAS been modified from it's original configuration, although I don't know if the actual mixing blades (paddles) or any part of the rotating assembly was changed. So, I'm trying to get the correct nomenclature for these-type of paddles.

What do you think they should be called?

Roland Heilmann
(not verified)

Replacements

Posted on 18. Apr. 2017 - 08:02

Hello,

these are mixer blades, but this is only the general term. The mixing feature definitely looks to be made to suit some special purpose or following a special design intent.

Btw, which industry / type or types of material t. b. mixed we are looking at?

I'd suggest you follow Johns advice and have someone knowledgeable look over the whole of the machine & then propose a technical solution, lest to finish the "fixture forever" issue. I'd not be very comfortable with metal parts dropping / wearing off of the blades.

Regards

R.

Up The Creek With A Paddle.

Posted on 18. Apr. 2017 - 05:06

As Roland says, an idea of the mixing operation will help enormously. You definitely seem to have a homemade gadget there. No disrespect to the original, which has lasted for a long time, but a newer version would have a better structural balance. Paddle frames are from substantial flat bar and the lattices are relatively flimsy. If you made lattices from flat bar and cut plenty of holes then you would get the same effect but a lot stronger paddle. Also the paddles could be connected with strakes to stiffen the assembly.

How big is the new machine going to be? Talk to someone: Shaolin can be translated as Show Lyn, as in Ajax Equipment or similar.

John Gateley johngateley@hotmail.com www.the-credible-bulk.com

Thanks For The Input - Here's An Update

Posted on 21. Apr. 2017 - 11:40

I appreciate all the inputs from everyone and agree with most findings - It's ancient, better technology exists, etc. Unsure what the size of the newer machine will be....Still planning the expansion. Was merely trying to see if anyone had a proper name for these type of blades (paddles) with all the little "windmill sails" built in. Don't know if they even exist outside my shop. Googling it again.


Quote Originally Posted by johngateleyView Post
As Roland says, an idea of the mixing operation will help enormously. You definitely seem to have a homemade gadget there. No disrespect to the original, which has lasted for a long time, but a newer version would have a better structural balance. Paddle frames are from substantial flat bar and the lattices are relatively flimsy. If you made lattices from flat bar and cut plenty of holes then you would get the same effect but a lot stronger paddle. Also the paddles could be connected with strakes to stiffen the assembly.

How big is the new machine going to be? Talk to someone: Shaolin can be translated as Show Lyn, as in Ajax Equipment or similar.

Re: Can Anyone Help Identify This Type Of Paddle?

Posted on 21. Apr. 2017 - 11:51

They're in a large dry mixer we use to mix dry materials together to make a product called "Tuff-Con" Protective Fireproof Surfacing. The mixer was outfitted with an auger-type discharge at the bottom. The auger is inside of a pipe and "pumps" the mixed dry material into bags which we weigh as we fill. Check out Tuff-Con's fireproofing and anti-heat transfer capacity on YouTube. Just search "Tuff-Con" and you'll find our Tuff-Con Fireproofing Demonstration (about 5 minutes).


Quote Originally Posted by Roland HeilmannView Post
Hello,

these are mixer blades, but this is only the general term. The mixing feature definitely looks to be made to suit some special purpose or following a special design intent.

Btw, which industry / type or types of material t. b. mixed we are looking at?

I'd suggest you follow Johns advice and have someone knowledgeable look over the whole of the machine & then propose a technical solution, lest to finish the "fixture forever" issue. I'd not be very comfortable with metal parts dropping / wearing off of the blades.

Regards

R.

Roland Heilmann
(not verified)

A Guess

Posted on 24. Apr. 2017 - 11:33

Hello,

if looking at the ads about Tuff-Con, the materials to be mixed seem to be of a small particle size. Now, if the original mixer just had those large paddle frames (as would be appropriate for fluid or semifluid materials and respective mixing behaviour), the machine maybe didn't quite perform to requ. Its like when preparing a sauce from a roux, you don't take a spoon to stir, but a fork or rather a whisk.

beater

Thus may have evolved the current design, which i didn't see anywhere as of yet, & perhaps might not be found on the net??

Regards

& have a nice time over there in the free R. o. California ;-)

Mix, Whisk, Mix, Whisk, Add More Ingredients, Whisk In More Ing…

Posted on 24. Apr. 2017 - 03:22
Quote Originally Posted by DustMixerView Post
Hello -

I have a horizontal paddle-type mixer with metal "lattice" attached to the paddles (see photo). Much of the lattice has worn away...searching for a bigger mixer of the same variety, but have no idea of the proper nomenclature for these type paddles. It might be a home-made one-off.

Any ideas as to what to call 'em would be appreciated. Thanx!
Quote Originally Posted by johngateleyView Post
As a first suggestion I would look for a nameplate. It is possible that the manufacturer is out of business or not manufacturing this gadget any more.

A second suggestion is that seeing how the lattices wear within themselves but are still attached to the flat-bar frames then the frames are running over a peripheral dead region and are clear on the inside of the trough. Sort of expected.

If you cannot get an equipment name in these forums I encourage you to consult a highly skilled mixing practitioner, none better than AJAX Equipment, who may be able to offer you a solution which will give better mixing and longer life.

How come your firm didn't consider a multi-blade ribbon in the first place?
Quote Originally Posted by DustMixerView Post
Father/Son business. Mixer has been a fixture forever, but I've only been involved for a few years. Can't find a nameplate anywhere on the machine - It HAS been modified from it's original configuration, although I don't know if the actual mixing blades (paddles) or any part of the rotating assembly was changed. So, I'm trying to get the correct nomenclature for these-type of paddles.

What do you think they should be called?
Quote Originally Posted by Roland HeilmannView Post
Hello,

these are mixer blades, but this is only the general term. The mixing feature definitely looks to be made to suit some special purpose or following a special design intent.

Btw, which industry / type or types of material t. b. mixed we are looking at?

I'd suggest you follow Johns advice and have someone knowledgeable look over the whole of the machine & then propose a technical solution, lest to finish the "fixture forever" issue. I'd not be very comfortable with metal parts dropping / wearing off of the blades.

Regards

R.
Quote Originally Posted by johngateleyView Post
As Roland says, an idea of the mixing operation will help enormously. You definitely seem to have a homemade gadget there. No disrespect to the original, which has lasted for a long time, but a newer version would have a better structural balance. Paddle frames are from substantial flat bar and the lattices are relatively flimsy. If you made lattices from flat bar and cut plenty of holes then you would get the same effect but a lot stronger paddle. Also the paddles could be connected with strakes to stiffen the assembly.

How big is the new machine going to be? Talk to someone: Shaolin can be translated as Show Lyn, as in Ajax Equipment or similar.
Quote Originally Posted by DustMixerView Post
I appreciate all the inputs from everyone and agree with most findings - It's ancient, better technology exists, etc. Unsure what the size of the newer machine will be....Still planning the expansion. Was merely trying to see if anyone had a proper name for these type of blades (paddles) with all the little "windmill sails" built in. Don't know if they even exist outside my shop. Googling it again.
Quote Originally Posted by DustMixerView Post
They're in a large dry mixer we use to mix dry materials together to make a product called "Tuff-Con" Protective Fireproof Surfacing. The mixer was outfitted with an auger-type discharge at the bottom. The auger is inside of a pipe and "pumps" the mixed dry material into bags which we weigh as we fill. Check out Tuff-Con's fireproofing and anti-heat transfer capacity on YouTube. Just search "Tuff-Con" and you'll find our Tuff-Con Fireproofing Demonstration (about 5 minutes).
Quote Originally Posted by Roland HeilmannView Post
Hello,

if looking at the ads about Tuff-Con, the materials to be mixed seem to be of a small particle size. Now, if the original mixer just had those large paddle frames (as would be appropriate for fluid or semifluid materials and respective mixing behaviour), the machine maybe didn't quite perform to requ. Its like when preparing a sauce from a roux, you don't take a spoon to stir, but a fork or rather a whisk.

beater

Thus may have evolved the current design, which i didn't see anywhere as of yet, & perhaps might not be found on the net??

Regards

& have a nice time over there in the free R. o. California ;-)

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AH yes, the Republic of California no longer suffers from a 5 plus year drought.

What he has there is low shearing mixer. The mixer must not over mix the fire retardants

ingredients and avoid an unbalanced flow of materials into the auger to bagging.

If the fire retardant is still working well the low strength mixing is going well and there is no point

in reinventing the wheel.

There is a reason the machine is designed as it is and at most you want to have a spare set of mixing

paddles on hand in case of a weld breaking and screwing up the frame.

At most all you need is a spare electric motor and gearbox and spare mixing frames from good welding shop.