Duct Velocity vs Particle Size / Dust Load

mall
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Posted in: , on 8. Dec. 2009 - 05:44

correlation of duct velocity vs particle size/dust load

hi there

need your advice and input

referring to acgih manual, for cement dust the recommended duct velocity is ranging from 18-20m/s but i have tested few duct with velocity below 10m/s eg venting cement silo, still can trasnport the cement dust without experience any blockage since 1977. so acgih guideline to me it seems to high or maybe not taking dust load/size into consideration.

so you guys have the chart or any formula to estimate duct velocity vs dust load/size, pls share.

bye

Re: Duct Velocity Vs Particle Size / Dust Load

Posted on 8. Dec. 2009 - 10:44

Dear mall,

If the duct system can only catch cement dust (<10 micron), then even 10 m/sec is more than high enough.

However, higher velocities in dust lines do not harm at all, as long as there is no possibility that cement enters the duct.

Therefore, before cement dust enters a ducting, there must be a region, where the air velocity is very low (< 0.75 m/sec). Any cement cannot pass this area and will fall out. The dust remains in the airflow

It is all balancing the local air velocities in relation to the suspension velocity of the cement and the cement dust.

Using the variation in suspension velocity is also a method of separating particle sizes.

Have a nice day

Teus

Teus

mall
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Re: Duct Velocity Vs Particle Size / Dust Load

Posted on 9. Dec. 2009 - 04:09

thanks teus

can i use particle settling chart to estimate particle size could be lift up by bag filter suction refer to perry? but this chart only shows correlation between settling velocity vs particle size at different specific gravity but not mentioning about duct load..........

how i can estimate optimum duct velocity for dust load eg 10g/m3 or 300g/m3?

need your input and advice again

tq

Duct Velocity Vs Particle Size

Posted on 9. Dec. 2009 - 06:56

You can go to a lot of trouble measuring the particle size, deciding an appropriate settling velocity for each fraction but finally, you will end up using a figure which transports the heaviest/largest particles, even though the finest fraction can be transported at very low figures. This velocity will generally be about 22 m/s for cement dust (or any dust for that matter) and will ensure that there will be no settling in the ducts.

Tues is correct to say that there needs to be a settling zone in the area before the extraction hood so that there will not be too much product entrained.

For practical economic reasons selecting 20 m/s rather than say, 15 m/s means smaller duct sizes. There is a balance between higher pressure losses with smaller ducting and more power consumption and increased maintenance through abrasive wear.

For cement dust, it is better to make bends from harder steel than normal structural grades and to make bends (where most wear happens) of longer radius than standard (say 2.5 x R).

Michael Reid.

Re: Duct Velocity Vs Particle Size / Dust Load

Posted on 9. Dec. 2009 - 09:37

Dear mall,

The air velocity in a duct is not related to the dust load (10 g/m3 or 300 g/m3 equaling a SLR of 0.0083 and 0.25)

The air velocity is related to the suspension velocity of the particles.

Michael explained more practical considerations for choosing the air velocity and also indicated the character of the dust conveying as a pneumatic conveying system with a very low SLR. (pressure drop, velocity, settling of particles, etc.)

Have a nice day

Teus

Teus

Duct Velocity Vs Particle Size

Posted on 10. Dec. 2009 - 06:52

In dust collection systems, dust loading has no direct influence on the design of the ducting, except that heavy dust loads will cause abrasive wear and will influence the wall thickness, bend radius etc. There needs to be no allowance for material friction, only for air friction.

Pneumatic conveying systems however, must take into account material losses as well as air losses, because of the much higher S/L ratio, as explained by Teus.

Michael Reid.

mall
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Re: Duct Velocity Vs Particle Size / Dust Load

Posted on 10. Dec. 2009 - 09:48

thanks alot to michael and teus........

my intention is by adjusting duct damper if open 100% the duct velocity may reach to 30m/s so it is waste of energy and high wear.........so by controlling the duct velocity thru damper openning we can estimate dust below 50micron is suck by bag filter so the rest settle down back to process or bin inside the hood.......

cheers