Ducting Design

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Posted in: , on 13. Dec. 2005 - 12:00

Please let know about process ducting design for cement plant process duct & power plant fuel gas duct.

1. How many velocity considered for duct.

2. Ducting Plate thikness.

3. Pressure drop in duct.

4. How many pressure reuired for process duct like Down commerduct, Bag House inlet & outlet duct & POwer plant Boiler inlet, oullet & Chimeny inlet duct.

5. Dust load in ducting design & ducting supporting structure design.

Re: Ducting Design

Posted on 13. Dec. 2005 - 08:36

These are design questions, you should seek assistance from your supervisor or an experienced engineer.

I will make GENERAL comments

Dust vel. is typ in order of 18 to 20m/sec.

Duct wall thickness is 5mm MIN, depends on pressure and temp and yield strenghtr of material at max operating temperature.

Pressure vary...needs to be calulated, for cement plants..can get to -10kpA easily

Design ducts on slopes..avoid buildsups...horizontal ducts are sometimes design with 30% filling/loading

Suggest that U seek expert advice NOW to avoid serious and costly mistakes.

Cheers

James

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Pressure Drop In Duct

Posted on 14. Dec. 2005 - 08:40

Thanks sir,

But for process ducting pressure drop calculation is very importance otherwise Fan power is very high. A Dust loading in gas any effect on Duct design & pressure drop calculation? I am Mechanical engineer but I do not about chemical & physical propriety various Gases (like below mention) in cement plant & power plant. For Ducting velocity considered on Ronald Number (Re) & Dynamic viscosity & Type of Flow (Laminar flow –Tribulation Flow).

1.Hot Gases Duct From Cooler to Pre heater Duct

2.Vertical Raw Mill to Cyclone & Bag House Inlet Duct.

3.Boiler to Air Preheater

4.Air Preheater to E.S.P. & chimany.

Please clarify above.

Re: Ducting Design

Posted on 14. Dec. 2005 - 02:16

I think what r.j.morrish is saying is that you need to employ a consultant to do this design work for you.

Re: Ducting Design

Posted on 14. Dec. 2005 - 03:27

You should be able to work it all out from the equipment supplier data e.g. for a baghouse the air/cloth ratio is stated, the connecting flange sizes are on the drawings & cloth area is also mentioned. From that and the manufacurer's pressure relief value you get the velocity in the duct. For an engineer it should be quite straightforward. I note you have just thrown in an ESP that was not mentioned in the original post.

One of Parkinson's laws defines a consultant as "someone who borrows your watch to tell you the time and then walks off with your watch". Your consultant will be able to start a jewellery business unless you do your homework!

John Gateley johngateley@hotmail.com www.the-credible-bulk.com

Re: Ducting Design

Posted on 14. Dec. 2005 - 07:34

.... a consultant as "someone who borrows your watch to tell you the time and then walks off with your watch", you forgot the other bit "he charges you for the privilege" :-))

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Posted on 18. Dec. 2005 - 03:39

You'll also forget thing when you get to my age.

John Gateley johngateley@hotmail.com www.the-credible-bulk.com

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Posted on 23. Feb. 2007 - 09:26

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Posted on 5. Mar. 2007 - 05:57

agree

for flue gas duct of boiler, you consider velocity about 8 to 10 m/s ., to find out the area of duct.

You must have total flue gas quantity. If you dont have it then take from your boiler supplier or contact me.

R u working anywere in Gujarat?

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Ducting Design For Bagfilter

Posted on 7. Jan. 2010 - 12:37

Dear sir,

please guide me to determine the size calculation of vent ductiing for bagfilter.

how can we determine the size of ducting? and how can we design the duct size?

regards,

sandeep soni

Pressure Drop

Posted on 7. Jan. 2010 - 12:41

Sir,

how can we determine the pressure drop of any bagfilter and its ducting?

and how can we calculate and design of inlet and outlet opening of bagfilter?

regards,

sandeep soni[/QUOTE]

Re: Ducting Design

Posted on 9. Apr. 2010 - 05:08
Quote Originally Posted by soni.indian87View Post
Dear sir,

please guide me to determine the size calculation of vent ductiing for bagfilter.

how can we determine the size of ducting? and how can we design the duct size?

regards,

sandeep soni

Hello,

For vent duct calculation, you need following parameters :

1) Flow "Q" m^3/sec

2) Velocity "V" m/sec

3) Area "A" m^2

Q=V*A , From this formula u can find the area of ducting.

1) Normally in Cement plants, velocity range will be 14-18 m/s. (depend upon material)

2) You can find vent volume requirement from equipment drawing.

Plz see below example and try it

Point No.Vent LocQ=M^/minPipe SizeActual sizeSeriesAct VelCheck

1.0WF121157.3158.7150NB17.7OK

2.0BC1. 136.5207.4207.9200NB17.9 OK

3.0WF221157.3158.7150NB17.7OK

4.0BC1.2 36.5207.4207.9200NB17.9 OK

5.0AF121157.3158.7150NB17.7OK

6.0BC1.336.5207.4207.9200NB17.9 OK

Regards,

KB Asawa