Hot cement conveying

RAjeev
(not verified)
Posted in: , on 14. Jul. 2006 - 15:07

Dear sir

We are having cement conveyor to convey cement to Silo. tchnical particulars of conveyor are as follows

length --------140 m

lift--------------15 m

belt width ----1000 mm

Troughing angle--- 35 degree

speed 1.4 m /sec

conveyor is horrizontal at loading pont and after skirt board conveyor is having radious of 150 m and having 10 degree inclination

conveyor is working perfectly for last 10 years at capacity of 200 tph . this year we have started mixing ash in cement and capacity increased to 220 tph.

Now we are facing material rollback problem at curvature portion

We have provided 500 mm high skirt at curve portion and found some times material starts rolling back and material comes out of 500 mm high skirts.

we found top surface is flat ie surchage angle of hot cement seems to be zero

When material starts building up top layor of cement becomes stationary and lower layer which is in contact with belt moves

Whether we should increase troughng angle to 45 degree

or we have to increase speed of cnveyor

we could not undertand the problem as this spilling occurs ocasinally

RAJEEV

Re: Hot Cement Conveying

Erstellt am 18. Jul. 2006 - 12:16

Without doing the sums for nowt I think your belt is a bit big for the duty. So an increased troughing angle is not going to improve the loss of surcharge is it? Speed is slow enough for low disturbance. Your mixture just won't climb the slope, whatever it is. Drop back to 200tph & try that. After all; you're not getting the added 20 tph at all either way now are you?

John Gateley johngateley@hotmail.com www.the-credible-bulk.com

Re: Hot Cement Conveying

Erstellt am 18. Jul. 2006 - 05:53

Dear Rajeev,

10 degrees is approx the natural slope angle of fluidized cement.

By mixing the flyash you might have decreased that natural angle of repose, reaching the limit of stable belt conveying.

It seems, that you have triggered a fluidization problem.

Increasing the belt speed will increase the problem of fluidized cement rolling back, because of increased vibrations and a higher differential speed of the upper air and the cement bed in the trough.

Changing the trough angle will not change the fluidization and thereby not change the problem.

Maybe the cement temperature, heating up the trapped (fluidizing) air is of influence on the fluidizing behavior, explaining the occasional occirence.

Completely covering the belt, with an additionally upward airflow in the flow direction inside, could help.

(under pressure to prevent dust and not garanteed)

Pneumatic conveying could solve the problem, but might to be too expensive (and destroy the investment in the belt)

success

teus

Teus

Re: Hot Cement Conveying

Erstellt am 19. Jul. 2006 - 03:32

We need to know a bit more about your system to provide useful comment. Is it blended product or mixed on the belt? There is a world of difference between the handling properties of hot cement and cold cement so temperature change could be part of the problem. This also applies to fly ash which will compound the problem.

How you feed the fly ash may also prove to be a source of your problems. If air slides are used upstream of the conveyor or blending occurs just before the feed point excessive airation can be a cause.

If mixing is carried out on the belt (which I suspect is the case)then the proportion of mix can cause the runback. The condition you describe would suggest that you have a temerature variation and are feeding one product on top of the other.

In their hot and airated state both products behave as a fluid.

Fitting skirts will aggravate the problem since they hold the material back. rather cure the problem by addressing the above or removing the agitation caused by idler indentations and belt deformities.

Engicon specialises in correcting non-performing plants and low cost de-bottlenecking of systems.
RAjeev
(not verified)

Hot Cement Handling

Erstellt am 20. Jul. 2006 - 11:17

Dear sir

Thanks for giving prompt replies for the problem. I would like to clarify Ash is blended during cement manufacturing process not on conveyor

Yes air slides are feeding material to this conveyor

Initially one feed chute was feeding to this conveyor during operation we have faced problem of fluidizing and last month we have divided the feeding chute to two chutes to load cement at two places about 1.0 m distance between feed points

This has reduced the fludising problem

As sugessted we will check the accuracy and smoothness of the horrizontal curve

whether by providing idlers at closer spacing at curve portion will help in belt identation in rollers

RAJEEV

Conveying Of Hot Cement

Erstellt am 21. Jul. 2006 - 04:27

You are adding just 10% of fly ash today. This percentage may increase tomorrow. You are grinding product to more fineness when adding fly-ash. That increases fluidity and tendency of roll-back. So you need a more permanent solution.

One solution can be lowering slope of conveyor and adding a short vertical screw conveyor or elevator either at feed end or adjoining silo. In the absence of layout, I can not comment (which is a better solution).

Vinayak Sathe Tel: +91 832 2538294

vinayak sathe 15, Rangavi Estate, Dabolim Airport 403801, Goa, India vinayak.sathe@gmail.com

Re: Hot Cement Conveying

Erstellt am 21. Jul. 2006 - 10:56

Then it sound like you increased the airflow to your air slides when you increased the tonnage or may even have added an aeration type transfer box. Either way you need to de-aerate the product to get out of your problems.

CEMA quotes a maximum angle of 6 deg for areated cement so at 10 deg you can expect problems. Screws also do not like aerated cement. Tackelling the problem at source is much cheaper than spending a fortune to overcome it.

Engicon specialises in correcting non-performing plants and low cost de-bottlenecking of systems.