Weighment of bagasse- What is the best way?

Posted in: , on 10. Jan. 2002 - 07:42

Dear Sir,

Can anyone suggest the best and most accurate method to weigh Bagasse ( received from sugar mill after crushing) with a moisture content of 50%.

The Bagasse will be transported on a belt conveyor.

The feed from the mills will not be even and so the flow will be uneven

Can a weigh hopper be used?

In that case, if any company has intalled the same what is the expereince in extracting bagasse (which is not free flowing) from the hopper.

I feel this area has not developed and I would sugget the experts in weighing field to make suggestions.

KS Dilip

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Weighing Of Bagasse

Posted on 10. Jan. 2002 - 12:28

Weighing of bagasse with a builtin beltweigher is possible. Depending on the

parameters of the installation, can be made a decision. For a first overview,

we need a drawing of the belt and the following information:

belt width and trough-form p.e. 20°, 3-fold

belt inclination

distance center axis

belt speed in m/s

nominal capacity in t/h,

weigh system works proper in a range 1:5

Best possible accuracy in the range of +/- 1 %.

best regards

Jef Zomerplaag

Sales Germany

Dr. Hans Boekels GmbH & Co, Am Gut Wolf 11, 52070 Aachen

Tel:+49 241 1827 241

Fax:+49 241 1827 210

mailto:jef.zomerplaag@boekels.com

WEB: http://www.boekels.com

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Bagasse Weighing

Posted on 10. Jan. 2002 - 01:05

It is possible , but difficult, to weigh bagasse on a conveyor belt, but

there have to be special cinsiderations as to the speed, width, troughing of

the belt in order to achieve an acceptable specific loading of the belt such

as to enable reasonable weighing to be done.

I have experience of such an application in the Caribbean. As regards the

handling aspects, these too need to be carefully considered in order to match

the weighing requirements. A company such as Fletchet & Stewart should be

approached for that question.

Regards

John Kelly

JKelly8543@aol.com

Re: Weighment Of Bagasse- What Is The Best Way?

Posted on 10. Jan. 2002 - 02:50

It may be possible to weigh the existing belt conveyor, as the other correspondents have stated.

However, It may be possible to use a weigh hopper as you originally stated. Accutron manufactures and makes a complete line of feeding and weighing equipment.

We handle all types of hard to handle materials (from raw powders to finished products (coins, nails etc))

If you could please send me a sample of the material, we would be glad to run it through our test lab free of charge.

Don Lonsert VP Sales www.accutechinc.com don@accutechinc.com
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Bagasse Weighing

Posted on 10. Jan. 2002 - 03:25

Thayer Scale have several different design belt scales that can be retrofitted into existing belt conveyor systems.

These belt scales can weigh regardless of intermittent flow. If you would

like send us information on your conveyors and we can take a look at it.

As for discharging Bagasse from silos, Vibra Screw has been successful in

discharging this material using its Bin Activator.

Sincerely,

Thomas Picone

Thayer Scale, Hyer Industries, Inc.

Pembroke, MA 02359

USA

sales@thayerscale.com

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Bagasse Weighing

Posted on 10. Jan. 2002 - 03:31

There a couple of possibilities here.



1. Inline weighing by putting loadcells under a section of the conveyor will give a real overall weight to an accuracy of about 3%.



2. Placing a receivable hopper on loadcells will give accurate weight to 0.1%. To extract the material from the hopper you will probably need to use a screw feeder and possibly vibrator/agitator on the hopper. We know companies in Australia who have experience in this type of installation.



Hope this helps.





BEC Systems

70 Glenmorgan St.

East Brunswick, Australia 3057

Ph: (613) 9386 6401 Fax: (613) 9383 3234

<http://www.becsystems.com.au>www.becsystems.com.au

"J Ottery" @bigpond.net.au>

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Bagasse Weighing

Posted on 16. Jan. 2002 - 01:45

We would like to visit the plant and study the feasibility to offer a suitable weighing system.We believe we can do it.

We work in the weighing area in the sugar industry though not

specifically for bagasse weighing but we can offer a suitable system.

Thanks and warm regards,

Ashish Bhutani

Director

Ashbee Systems P.Ltd

www.ashbee.com

Email ashishbhutani@vsnl.com

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Re: Weighment Of Bagasse- What Is The Best Way?

Posted on 17. Jan. 2002 - 09:11

Originally posted by KS Dilip

Dear Sir,

Can anyone suggest the best and most accurate method to weigh Bagasse ( received from sugar mill after crushing) with a moisture content of 50%.

The Bagasse will be transported on a belt conveyor.

The feed from the mills will not be even and so the flow will be uneven

Can a weigh hopper be used?

In that case, if any company has intalled the same what is the expereince in extracting bagasse (which is not free flowing) from the hopper.

I feel this area has not developed and I would sugget the experts in weighing field to make suggestions.

KS Dilip

Dear Sir,

We propose you to use a Laser Scanner which is installed over the conveyor belt, measuring the exact profile of transported Bagasse material in very short time cycles (about 75 readings per second). In this way you will get the exact Volume Stream continuous (e.g. as cubic-metres per hour). If we take a unalterable density of Bargasse as a point of departure then we will get the exact tonnage of Bargasse also (e.g. in kilograms per second). Of course you need the scanner and an evaluation unit and the suitable software also.

If there is your interest or any further information you would like to have please write me by fax or email.

Yours sincerely,

Dietmar Schingnitz

atherjamal
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Indirect Measurement

Posted on 5. Sep. 2005 - 02:16

hi,

i have been to this problem of weighing bagasse online too. in my opinion, the solution to the problem is to measure the RPM of the rotory bagasse feeders. if we know the RPM of the bogasse feeders, and as the magnitude of bogasse being fed to the combustion chamber of the Bogasse Boiler is same (considering bagasse feeder as positive displacement type), if we multiply the amount of bogasse fed by the feeder in one rotation with the RPM of rotary feeder, we can get the total amount of bogasse in kgs/Hr.

Assumptions:

1. the shoot above the rotatry feeder should be filled with bogasse completely.

2. the moisture contents of the bogasse should be considered same

3. the calorific value of the bogasse is kept constant( to calculate the total heat input from bogasse)

thanking you,

Athar Jamal

Sr. Energy Engineer

IAEL, Pakistan

ajamal@iael.com

Re: Weighment Of Bagasse- What Is The Best Way?

Posted on 7. Sep. 2005 - 08:37

You give no indication of rate to be handled but the following may be suitable, it having been used sucessfully in the past with asbestos fibre.

A rotary drum with 3 compartments mounted on a weighing unit. The material to be weighed is fed into a compartment until sufficiently filled. The drum is rapidly indexed to the next compartment which fills while the first discharges and the process is repeated.

The weighing controls totalise the throughput based on the individual weighments and convert it to an average rate according to requirement.

The weighments are independant of material density (most important with materials of this type which can be subject to significant variation) or short term variations in rate provided the unit is adequately sized.

Newton Sundar

Posted on 23. Feb. 2009 - 06:02

Dear Sir,

It is possible to use a belt scale with multiple Idler scale. Our Principals M/S. Beltway scales have a number of successful installations. You may contact them or us.

Thanks & regards

V.Sundar

Newton Weighing System Pvt Ltd, Kolkata India

newtonws@gmail.com

or

Michael Murphy

Director Sales & Marketing

Belt-Way Scales, Inc.

One Belt Way

Rock Falls, IL 61071 - USA

Phone (815) 625-5573

www.beltwayscales.com