Dosing of Power into Vessel Under Vacuum

andreashansen
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Posted in: , on 1. Dec. 2020 - 18:05

Hi all,

I am looking for a practical solution for continuos metering (weighing, ~1000kg/h) of powder into to a vessel which in operated under vacuum (800mbara).

Does anything have experience dosing powder into a vacuum vessel without having excessive air ingress from the powder metering system to the vessel itself?

I would like to avoid a loss-in-weight system due to the requirement of a large volume on weighing cells.

Media is diatomic earth (incompressible) with varying bulk density.

Hope to achieve +/-5% accuracy on the metering capacity.

Thank you in advance for your replies.

/Andreas

Re: Dosing Of Power Into Vessel Under Vacuum

Posted on 2. Dec. 2020 - 08:55

Dear Andreas,

A valve lock might be a solution.

Although, this is a volumetric dosing system, and you require a mass dosing system.

For a mass dosing system, the (small) batches must be weighed.

The weighed batch is dropped into the valve lock.

This system can be made quasi continuous by a parallel weighing and feeding.

A better way is to consult a well know company in this field.

Teus

andreashansen
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Re: Dosing Of Power Into Vessel Under Vacuum

Posted on 7. Dec. 2020 - 08:24
Quote Originally Posted by Teus TuinenburgView Post
Dear Andreas,

A valve lock might be a solution.

Although, this is a volumetric dosing system, and you require a mass dosing system.

Dear Teus,

Thank you very much for the reply.

I am normally using a valve lock system; two systems in parallel (one in filling one in emptying).

Since the powder is dosed to a continuous process, I have a desire to keep the dosing as "continuous as possible"

A scaled-up valve lock system will act more abrupt since I will need larger valves (with longer opening times) to meet the capacity of 1000kg/h @ 300kg/m3.

It might be worth to consider your approach with a valve lock system, with intermediate weighing hopper, working quasi continuous - In fact maybe having several lock valve systems can help to smooth the "continuous" dosing.

Re: Dosing Of Power Into Vessel Under Vacuum

Posted on 7. Dec. 2020 - 08:48

Dear Andreas,

Since you are feeding from the atmosphere to a vacuum region, a control gate is also a possibility.

The pressure difference is determining the flow through an adjustable/controlled gate opening.

https://www.ibauhamburg.com/en/compo...-control-gate/

Probably, you also need an intermediate hopper between the weighing scale and the control gate.

The level in the hopper is the basis for the control gate opening as the weighing scale is feeding at a constant rate.

Teus

Re: Dosing Of Power Into Vessel Under Vacuum

Posted on 14. Dec. 2020 - 05:56

Diatomaceous earth will settle quickly in a vacuum to a high density and is cohesive as a fine powder, so will need a well-designed, mass flow volumetric feeder to feed reliably and accurately. This could be fed from a lock system where air is evacuated and supplied on call from a level detector. One would need details of feed rate and local set-up to go into more detail.

Re: Dosing Of Power Into Vessel Under Vacuum

Posted on 16. Dec. 2020 - 03:50

Dear Lyn,

When a control gate is used (as I described it), the Diatomaceous earth enters the vacuum region aerated under the vacuum pressure.

Or am I thinking too fast and too simple?

Teus

Magnetic Vibrating Feeder

Posted on 12. Feb. 2021 - 12:38

Hello,

It would be possible to utilise a vibrating feeder inside a vacuum. I have experience of building such feeders utilising our Magnetic Vibrators.

Please feel free to contact myself.

fletcher@aviteq.co.uk

Thanks,

Paul

Re: Dosing Of Power Into Vessel Under Vacuum

Posted on 12. Feb. 2021 - 01:01

A plug seal screw feeder can deliver material into a vacuum without ingress of air but, contrarily to feeding into a pressurised zone, the plug has to be restrained by a controlled pressure plate. Its an effective solution, but not for standard equipment.

Feed To Undervacuup Vessel

Posted on 5. Dec. 2021 - 04:19

Hi,

As Teus saif airlock feeder is a solution

I add following for system design

Bunker

Underbunker airlock or screw feeder (with FC driven)

surge hopper with level sensor

Small weighing bunker with 2 butterly valve (air tide) ( I used a dia 219mm pipe before)

Automation to drop material by weighing (you can adjust stabile feed in automation). You take always avarage of last 10 weighing and adjust feed rate by control above units

see Ball mill (or any mill) STABLE FEEDING system, 2017 KSA: https://youtu.be/oJmmy7AyXg

In this way you send material inside vakuum vessel in always same capacity kg/h ...

Hope it is usefull

Ertekin

RTK