Thrower at End of Loading Bellow

Posted in: , on 24. Apr. 2010 - 05:52

Hi All,

Does anyone know of an equipment supplier who manufactures a thrower that can be attached to the end of a loading bellow? I guess the thrower will need to be small enough to fit inside a silo tanker through the manhole, and it only needs to be powerful enough to throw the material to the end of the tanker (2.5-3meters at most) and does not require high throughput (10-20MT/h is sufficient). We would like to see if we can increase the amount of product we can load by minimising the "dead space" at the front and end of the tanker. The product we are handling is granular urea and we are currently using a screw conveyor to transport the material from group level to the top of the tanker. Our experience is that the urea tends to build up (into a mountain) and does not "flow" like other products.

Cheers,

Laurence

Urea

Posted on 24. Apr. 2010 - 07:40

Assuming on my part you have a Freuhaugh, Heil, Butler, Timpte or other brand

of pnuematic tanker the only way it can work for you is to do the following- if and

only if renting a concrete vibrator to experiment to obtain the mass flow you are

looking for cannot move the urea to lower the pile in the trailer.

Short of putting hatches in the sides of your tankers that will be sized for the Redler fullfiller

if the tanker can be moved over a few feet for loading with no issues.

The problem is a visual one as it would extremely hard to determine product level if the line oif

sight is obscured.

Are these tankers units still capable of suctioning thier loads or has that mode of operation changed in the units designs?

The other possible way is to have an eductor built to allow a compressed air line to be attached to a fitting

with a large ball valve using jack hammer fittings and whip stops to create an air blast to move the urea with air

to obtain a more even loading-

a large enough heavy sheet metal elbow with the air pipe coming into the elbow at the curves and protruding slightly

in the curve would provide air to blow it it place- buuuuut; I am not familiar with urea and its properties as relates to static electricity

build ups.

If the blowers are also plumbed for suction it would be easy to add a fitting to the end of the tanker to blow urea into

both ends of it from a smaller bin which will be connected by a suction hose.

You might be money and time ahead by siimply investing in a walinga grain mover to suction urea from a small bin to top off the tanker-

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this would be easy to do as the hose size fittings will fit in the man way and you could ask them to fabricate an elbow for your loading man holes which could rest on the urea while it is discharging to the end of the tanker.

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Urea...Lly Have A Problem

Posted on 24. Apr. 2010 - 01:38

If the product chokes the inlet before the vessel is full then the inlet is big enough but the vessel geometry is wrong. You need more inlets and that's it. If you aerate the material it is very likley that you will develop a rarer powder and the entrained air will remain for a long time. All that you will have acheived is a slightly better spread of powder with little gain in payload.

At least 2 extra inlets are necessary. I am not sure what your position is under ASME VIII since although the use remains the same the modifications are extensive. Perhaps your tank designer would choose to fit pads to all nozzles but even then ...check him out. He will be helpful because if he isn't he would naturally conclude that you would source elswhere. I would have sourced elswhere anyway because the vendor should have checked the material property beforehand.

Re: Thrower At End Of Loading Bellow

Posted on 24. Apr. 2010 - 09:12

Must admit I haven't been involved with loading tankers with powder/granules for a while, but as I recall back then all the tankers I came across had several inlet hatches to ensure maximum filling and conveyors with multiple outlets each with a bellows chute to one hatch.

Is it normal practice now for tankers to have only one filling hatch

I'm sure that anyone considering supplying a "thrower" would appreciate the clear diameter of the hatch their thrower has to go through

Have you 'googled' loading spouts?

I just have and find that Midwest offer a "Product Trimmer" as an accessory for their spouts. Maybe you just have to buy a new spout ?

http://www.midwestmagic.com/productsspoutsacc.php

Re: Thrower At End Of Loading Bellow

Posted on 26. Apr. 2010 - 11:40

Hi

There is a loading spout supplier in Australia that has a spinning disc with some cleats. Never tried it.....driven by compressed air and with level max sensors hanging underneath I beleive. The spinner is aprt of the sealing cone - cone that goes up and seasl the chute when raising above the tanker.

Other way is to add more air..

Or move truck - what we do as well.

Cheers