Dryer for Copper Slag

Copperslag
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Posted in: , on 25. Dec. 2008 - 09:57

Hi All,

I am currently in the process of upgradin my dryers for my plant. At present I have 2 rotary dryers(diesel burners) running at a total of 35-40ton/hr. I am looking for fluid bed dryers to complement my current production set up.

The capacity of the fluid bed dryer i am aiming for is 80tph. The aggregate is Copper Slag and due to the very abrasive nature of copper slag, high wear resistance of the dryer is a pre requisite.

Could anyone advise me on the best setup for my purpose. Thanks.

Copperslag
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Dryer For Copper Slag

Posted on 25. Dec. 2008 - 08:57

Hi All,

I am currently in the process of upgradin my dryers for my plant. At present I have 2 rotary dryers(diesel burners) running at a total of 35-40ton/hr. I am looking for fluid bed dryers to complement my current production set up.

The capacity of the fluid bed dryer i am aiming for is 80tph. The aggregate is Copper Slag and due to the very abrasive nature of copper slag, high wear resistance of the dryer is a pre requisite.

Could anyone advise me on the best setup for my purpose. Thanks.

Re: Dryer For Copper Slag

Posted on 25. Dec. 2008 - 12:46

Please be more specific about the moisture content of the material in and out and the necessary evaporation rate and material consistency (pumpable sludge, sticky paste, pre-dried material) to check, whether we can offer you a solution with our drying systems based on intensive mixers producing a fluidized bed be mechanical action (http://www.eirich.com/index.php?scri.../Content&id=50). Pre-mixing with dry material like in drum dryers would not be necessary. The systems are already well introduced in the drying of copper containing sludges with different customers.

Stefan.Gerl@eirich.de

MASCHINENFABRIK GUSTAV EIRICH GmbH & Co KG

Germany - www.eirich.com

Re: Dryer For Copper Slag

Posted on 25. Dec. 2008 - 12:46

Please be more specific about the moisture content of the material in and out and the necessary evaporation rate and material consistency (pumpable sludge, sticky paste, pre-dried material) to check, whether we can offer you a solution with our drying systems based on intensive mixers producing a fluidized bed be mechanical action (http://www.eirich.com/index.php?scri.../Content&id=50). Pre-mixing with dry material like in drum dryers would not be necessary. The systems are already well introduced in the drying of copper containing sludges with different customers.

Stefan.Gerl@eirich.de

MASCHINENFABRIK GUSTAV EIRICH GmbH & Co KG

Germany - www.eirich.com

Re: Dryer For Copper Slag

Posted on 25. Dec. 2008 - 12:46

Please be more specific about the moisture content of the material in and out and the necessary evaporation rate and material consistency (pumpable sludge, sticky paste, pre-dried material) to check, whether we can offer you a solution with our drying systems based on intensive mixers producing a fluidized bed be mechanical action (http://www.eirich.com/index.php?scri.../Content&id=50). Pre-mixing with dry material like in drum dryers would not be necessary. The systems are already well introduced in the drying of copper containing sludges with different customers.

Stefan.Gerl@eirich.de

MASCHINENFABRIK GUSTAV EIRICH GmbH & Co KG

Germany - www.eirich.com

Re: Dryer For Copper Slag

Posted on 26. Dec. 2008 - 09:04

please send us detailed description of the process and details

Aykent K.delen

Mech. Engineer

BLM MAKNA NAAT SAN. TC. VE A.

Nilüfer Organize Sanayi Bölgesi113. Sok. No.13 Nilüfer / BURSA - TURKEY

Phone: +90 224 411 20 70

Fax : +90 224 411 20 90

Mobile: +90 535 9258582

Mail. aykentk@bilimmakina.com.tr

web: www.bilimmakina.com.tr

Re: Dryer For Copper Slag

Posted on 26. Dec. 2008 - 09:04

please send us detailed description of the process and details

Aykent K.delen

Mech. Engineer

BLM MAKNA NAAT SAN. TC. VE A.

Nilüfer Organize Sanayi Bölgesi113. Sok. No.13 Nilüfer / BURSA - TURKEY

Phone: +90 224 411 20 70

Fax : +90 224 411 20 90

Mobile: +90 535 9258582

Mail. aykentk@bilimmakina.com.tr

web: www.bilimmakina.com.tr

Re: Dryer For Copper Slag

Posted on 26. Dec. 2008 - 09:04

please send us detailed description of the process and details

Aykent K.delen

Mech. Engineer

BLM MAKNA NAAT SAN. TC. VE A.

Nilüfer Organize Sanayi Bölgesi113. Sok. No.13 Nilüfer / BURSA - TURKEY

Phone: +90 224 411 20 70

Fax : +90 224 411 20 90

Mobile: +90 535 9258582

Mail. aykentk@bilimmakina.com.tr

web: www.bilimmakina.com.tr

Re: Dryer For Copper Slag

Posted on 26. Dec. 2008 - 03:28

I don't know if you had a chance to look into General Kinematics vibratory fluid bed dryers. The units can be built to your specific needs and can be built to handle abrasive materials. The units are extremely energy efficient and can also include cooling sections if off loaded material needs to be a specific temperature for handling needs. I would encourage you to visit www.generalkinematics.com or send an e-mail to me if you have any specific questions.

Best Regards,

Todd

Re: Dryer For Copper Slag

Posted on 26. Dec. 2008 - 03:28

I don't know if you had a chance to look into General Kinematics vibratory fluid bed dryers. The units can be built to your specific needs and can be built to handle abrasive materials. The units are extremely energy efficient and can also include cooling sections if off loaded material needs to be a specific temperature for handling needs. I would encourage you to visit www.generalkinematics.com or send an e-mail to me if you have any specific questions.

Best Regards,

Todd

Re: Dryer For Copper Slag

Posted on 26. Dec. 2008 - 03:28

I don't know if you had a chance to look into General Kinematics vibratory fluid bed dryers. The units can be built to your specific needs and can be built to handle abrasive materials. The units are extremely energy efficient and can also include cooling sections if off loaded material needs to be a specific temperature for handling needs. I would encourage you to visit www.generalkinematics.com or send an e-mail to me if you have any specific questions.

Best Regards,

Todd

Copperslag
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Re: Dryer For Copper Slag

Posted on 28. Dec. 2008 - 02:48

Thank you for the replies.

stgerl: The incoming slag has a moisture content of 3-5%. The outgoing requirements is <0.2%.

As for the heating element, I am open to possibilities of diesel/gas/electrical. I have good access to all 3 resources in my plant and I am more concerned with the perceived efficiency of the different heating methods.

I am also interested in recycling as much of the heated air as possible to increase my efficiency.

As for vibrating beds, would the maintenance be significantly more involving?

Thanks everyone.

Copperslag
(not verified)

Re: Dryer For Copper Slag

Posted on 28. Dec. 2008 - 02:48

Thank you for the replies.

stgerl: The incoming slag has a moisture content of 3-5%. The outgoing requirements is <0.2%.

As for the heating element, I am open to possibilities of diesel/gas/electrical. I have good access to all 3 resources in my plant and I am more concerned with the perceived efficiency of the different heating methods.

I am also interested in recycling as much of the heated air as possible to increase my efficiency.

As for vibrating beds, would the maintenance be significantly more involving?

Thanks everyone.

Copperslag
(not verified)

Re: Dryer For Copper Slag

Posted on 28. Dec. 2008 - 02:48

Thank you for the replies.

stgerl: The incoming slag has a moisture content of 3-5%. The outgoing requirements is <0.2%.

As for the heating element, I am open to possibilities of diesel/gas/electrical. I have good access to all 3 resources in my plant and I am more concerned with the perceived efficiency of the different heating methods.

I am also interested in recycling as much of the heated air as possible to increase my efficiency.

As for vibrating beds, would the maintenance be significantly more involving?

Thanks everyone.

Author
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Drying Copper Slag

Posted on 1. Dec. 2008 - 09:03

Dear All.

I am sorry to inform you that for this application of drying Copper Slag where you are looking for Fluid Bed Dryers we from Buss-SMS-Canzler do not have such equipment in our fabrication program.

Best regards,

Mr. W. Nussberger

Buss-SMS-Canzler GmbH

Branch Office Pratteln

Hohenrainstrasse 10

CH-4133 Pratteln

Tel: +41/ (0)61-825 64 90

Fax: +41/ (0)61-825 67 66

Mobile:+49/(0)175-293 44 09

www.sms-vt.com

Author
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Drying Copper Slag

Posted on 1. Dec. 2008 - 09:03

Dear All.

I am sorry to inform you that for this application of drying Copper Slag where you are looking for Fluid Bed Dryers we from Buss-SMS-Canzler do not have such equipment in our fabrication program.

Best regards,

Mr. W. Nussberger

Buss-SMS-Canzler GmbH

Branch Office Pratteln

Hohenrainstrasse 10

CH-4133 Pratteln

Tel: +41/ (0)61-825 64 90

Fax: +41/ (0)61-825 67 66

Mobile:+49/(0)175-293 44 09

www.sms-vt.com

Author
(not verified)

Drying Copper Slag

Posted on 1. Dec. 2008 - 09:03

Dear All.

I am sorry to inform you that for this application of drying Copper Slag where you are looking for Fluid Bed Dryers we from Buss-SMS-Canzler do not have such equipment in our fabrication program.

Best regards,

Mr. W. Nussberger

Buss-SMS-Canzler GmbH

Branch Office Pratteln

Hohenrainstrasse 10

CH-4133 Pratteln

Tel: +41/ (0)61-825 64 90

Fax: +41/ (0)61-825 67 66

Mobile:+49/(0)175-293 44 09

www.sms-vt.com

Drying Copper Slag

Posted on 1. Dec. 2008 - 11:22

Exhaust gas temperature from a rotory drier can be maintained above dew point and dust collection is relatively easy.

In case of fluidised bed drier, exhaust gas tempraure will be about 105 Deg C. This is below dew point and can create problems of corrossion / coating on exhaust system.

vinayak sathe 15, Rangavi Estate, Dabolim Airport 403801, Goa, India vinayak.sathe@gmail.com

Drying Copper Slag

Posted on 1. Dec. 2008 - 11:22

Exhaust gas temperature from a rotory drier can be maintained above dew point and dust collection is relatively easy.

In case of fluidised bed drier, exhaust gas tempraure will be about 105 Deg C. This is below dew point and can create problems of corrossion / coating on exhaust system.

vinayak sathe 15, Rangavi Estate, Dabolim Airport 403801, Goa, India vinayak.sathe@gmail.com

Drying Copper Slag

Posted on 1. Dec. 2008 - 11:22

Exhaust gas temperature from a rotory drier can be maintained above dew point and dust collection is relatively easy.

In case of fluidised bed drier, exhaust gas tempraure will be about 105 Deg C. This is below dew point and can create problems of corrossion / coating on exhaust system.

vinayak sathe 15, Rangavi Estate, Dabolim Airport 403801, Goa, India vinayak.sathe@gmail.com

Re: Dryer For Copper Slag

Posted on 1. Dec. 2008 - 04:06

With vibratory fluid bed dryers you do reach an adiabatic saturation situation where the exhaust air come close to dew point but can be overcome in the manifold by diverting a heat stream to compensate. With proper engineering you can overcome any issues of corrosion and sticking of fines. There is a significant amount of control that can be had using a fluid bed dryer as compared to a rotary drum dryer.

Best Regards,

Todd

Re: Dryer For Copper Slag

Posted on 1. Dec. 2008 - 04:06

With vibratory fluid bed dryers you do reach an adiabatic saturation situation where the exhaust air come close to dew point but can be overcome in the manifold by diverting a heat stream to compensate. With proper engineering you can overcome any issues of corrosion and sticking of fines. There is a significant amount of control that can be had using a fluid bed dryer as compared to a rotary drum dryer.

Best Regards,

Todd

Re: Dryer For Copper Slag

Posted on 1. Dec. 2008 - 04:06

With vibratory fluid bed dryers you do reach an adiabatic saturation situation where the exhaust air come close to dew point but can be overcome in the manifold by diverting a heat stream to compensate. With proper engineering you can overcome any issues of corrosion and sticking of fines. There is a significant amount of control that can be had using a fluid bed dryer as compared to a rotary drum dryer.

Best Regards,

Todd

Kochauf
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Fluid Bed Drier For Cooper Slag

Posted on 3. Dec. 2008 - 10:49
Quote Originally Posted by CopperslagView Post
Hi All,

I am currently in the process of upgradin my dryers for my plant. At present I have 2 rotary dryers(diesel burners) running at a total of 35-40ton/hr. I am looking for fluid bed dryers to complement my current production set up.

The capacity of the fluid bed dryer i am aiming for is 80tph. The aggregate is Copper Slag and due to the very abrasive nature of copper slag, high wear resistance of the dryer is a pre requisite.

Could anyone advise me on the best setup for my purpose. Thanks.



Dear Mrs./Dear Mr.,

we are interested in your project.

Binder+Co is a wellknown producer of fluid bed drier/coolers in all over the word.

We have experience for drying plants for slag and have delivered e.g. for LAFARGE, HEIDELBERGER, a.s.o..

There we also were compared with drum dries and have good advantages in comparison to rotary dryes.

If you would like to send a mail with your adress to us "walter.kochauf@binder-co.at" we will contact you.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Best regards,

Walter Kochauf

Kochauf
(not verified)

Fluid Bed Drier For Cooper Slag

Posted on 3. Dec. 2008 - 10:49
Quote Originally Posted by CopperslagView Post
Hi All,

I am currently in the process of upgradin my dryers for my plant. At present I have 2 rotary dryers(diesel burners) running at a total of 35-40ton/hr. I am looking for fluid bed dryers to complement my current production set up.

The capacity of the fluid bed dryer i am aiming for is 80tph. The aggregate is Copper Slag and due to the very abrasive nature of copper slag, high wear resistance of the dryer is a pre requisite.

Could anyone advise me on the best setup for my purpose. Thanks.



Dear Mrs./Dear Mr.,

we are interested in your project.

Binder+Co is a wellknown producer of fluid bed drier/coolers in all over the word.

We have experience for drying plants for slag and have delivered e.g. for LAFARGE, HEIDELBERGER, a.s.o..

There we also were compared with drum dries and have good advantages in comparison to rotary dryes.

If you would like to send a mail with your adress to us "walter.kochauf@binder-co.at" we will contact you.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Best regards,

Walter Kochauf

Kochauf
(not verified)

Fluid Bed Drier For Cooper Slag

Posted on 3. Dec. 2008 - 10:49
Quote Originally Posted by CopperslagView Post
Hi All,

I am currently in the process of upgradin my dryers for my plant. At present I have 2 rotary dryers(diesel burners) running at a total of 35-40ton/hr. I am looking for fluid bed dryers to complement my current production set up.

The capacity of the fluid bed dryer i am aiming for is 80tph. The aggregate is Copper Slag and due to the very abrasive nature of copper slag, high wear resistance of the dryer is a pre requisite.

Could anyone advise me on the best setup for my purpose. Thanks.



Dear Mrs./Dear Mr.,

we are interested in your project.

Binder+Co is a wellknown producer of fluid bed drier/coolers in all over the word.

We have experience for drying plants for slag and have delivered e.g. for LAFARGE, HEIDELBERGER, a.s.o..

There we also were compared with drum dries and have good advantages in comparison to rotary dryes.

If you would like to send a mail with your adress to us "walter.kochauf@binder-co.at" we will contact you.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Best regards,

Walter Kochauf

Kochauf
(not verified)

Fluid Bed Drier For Coopperslag

Posted on 3. Dec. 2008 - 10:56
Quote Originally Posted by CopperslagView Post
Hi All,

I am currently in the process of upgradin my dryers for my plant. At present I have 2 rotary dryers(diesel burners) running at a total of 35-40ton/hr. I am looking for fluid bed dryers to complement my current production set up.

The capacity of the fluid bed dryer i am aiming for is 80tph. The aggregate is Copper Slag and due to the very abrasive nature of copper slag, high wear resistance of the dryer is a pre requisite.

Could anyone advise me on the best setup for my purpose. Thanks.

Dear Mrs./Dear Mr.,

we are interested in your project.

Binder+Co is a wellknown producer of fluid bed drier/coolers in all over the world.

We have experience for drying plants for slag and have delivered e.g. for LAFARGE, HEIDELBERGER, a.s.o..

There we also were compared with drum dries and have good advantages in comparison to rotary dryes.

If you would like to send a mail with your adress to us "walter.kochauf@binder-co.at" we will contact you.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Best regards,

Walter Kochauf

Copperslag
(not verified)

Re: Dryer For Copper Slag

Posted on 4. Dec. 2008 - 08:57

Dear All,

Thank you for the wealth of information that you have provided. I will keep all updated. Thanks!

Riera Nadeu
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Dryer For Copper Slag

Posted on 11. Dec. 2008 - 06:34

Dear sirs,

In order to reply to your query (we're really interested in that! ) we need to know certain data additionnally to the production rate you state.

Required data:

- Hourly production rate: 80 T

- Product humidity at inlet

- Desired residual humidity of dried product

- The target is separating metal copper in presence (if any) - if affirmative, expected volume.

- Particle size at inlet

- Is it desired to get particle size reduced?

- Available heat source - pls state

- Is there any non-used heat that could be used-up here thus cutting down the running costs?

- Any other available data

Abrasivityof the product will not be a problem - we'll take into consideration and epxlain you our anti-wearing protection/lining.

Awaiting your news, and thanking you in advance

R. Fenollosa

RIERA NADEU S.A.

Granollers-Barcelona (Spain)

www.rieranadeu.com

comercial@rieranadeu.com

tel +34 93 840 7072

Re: Dryer For Copper Slag

Posted on 28. Dec. 2008 - 08:47

The maintenance will be substantially less than a rotary dryer. There is a vibratory motor that helps convey the material and it requires minimal maintenance; greasing on a scheduled interval. There are no moving parts within the bed of material therefore upkeep is less. The unit can be configured to run with any source of heat including steam, electrical, gas/oil burners etc. as well as using a recycled stream of heat to a burner. General Kinematics builds some of the worlds largest vibratory fluid bed dryers in the world. Many customers that had rotary dryers are converting their systems over to vibratory fluid bed due to the effectiveness of drying as well as control over final moisture.

Best Regards,

Todd

Tdanielczyk@generalkinematics.com

Re: Dryer For Copper Slag

Posted on 28. Dec. 2008 - 08:47

The maintenance will be substantially less than a rotary dryer. There is a vibratory motor that helps convey the material and it requires minimal maintenance; greasing on a scheduled interval. There are no moving parts within the bed of material therefore upkeep is less. The unit can be configured to run with any source of heat including steam, electrical, gas/oil burners etc. as well as using a recycled stream of heat to a burner. General Kinematics builds some of the worlds largest vibratory fluid bed dryers in the world. Many customers that had rotary dryers are converting their systems over to vibratory fluid bed due to the effectiveness of drying as well as control over final moisture.

Best Regards,

Todd

Tdanielczyk@generalkinematics.com

Re: Dryer For Copper Slag

Posted on 28. Dec. 2008 - 08:47

The maintenance will be substantially less than a rotary dryer. There is a vibratory motor that helps convey the material and it requires minimal maintenance; greasing on a scheduled interval. There are no moving parts within the bed of material therefore upkeep is less. The unit can be configured to run with any source of heat including steam, electrical, gas/oil burners etc. as well as using a recycled stream of heat to a burner. General Kinematics builds some of the worlds largest vibratory fluid bed dryers in the world. Many customers that had rotary dryers are converting their systems over to vibratory fluid bed due to the effectiveness of drying as well as control over final moisture.

Best Regards,

Todd

Tdanielczyk@generalkinematics.com

Lf Pumping - Ultimate Dryer Of A Growing Range Of Materials

Posted on 12. Feb. 2009 - 09:00

With energy prices set to rise over the next 5 years, we know this system will be of great interest to you, either as a pre-dryer for your existing drying systems or as a standalone drying, pumping or material handling unit.

The key Points associated with this unique environmental system, compared to any known rotary, ventura, vibrating fluid bed, or static fluid bed drying systems for materials are:-

•Guaranteed energy savings, as there is no requirement for any gas, gas/oil or diesel fuels, to generate heat source to dry materials.

•Reduced carbon footprint.

•Operational advantages throughout the transportation, drying, and delivery process.

•Compact size.

•Guaranteed Low maintenance costs.

•Minimal disruption of integrating system in to current process line.

•Liquids, sludges, and aggregates up to 75mm.

•Bespoke systems can dry sand from 60% moisture content down to 0.3%.

•Bespoke systems can handle up to 500 tonnes per hour.

What materials can be dry, pump, or material handle? http://lfpumping.com/material-handling.php

We are confident that this system offers to you the very latest cutting edge technology, packed with financial and delivery savings. We look forward to discussing all your transporting, drying, crushing, and grading applications.

Lf Pumping - Operating Costs For This Scenario

Posted on 12. Feb. 2009 - 11:34

Based on the information on this thread I thought i would offer for guidance only a operating cost analysis for The LamiFlo Unit drying this Copper Slag from 5% down to less than 0%.

To firm up this operating cost, we will need to run your product through our test facilities.

LamiFloTM Drying

1. Energy Usage (MJ) / tonne 25.5

- Gasoil (litres) / tonne NA

- Electricity (kW) / tonne 7.13

2. Operating Costs (£) / tonne £0.49

3. Carbon Emissions (kg) / tonne 3.88 kg

Based on £0.07 per kW for electricty costs

The estimated operating costs exc licence and maintenance fee.

www.lfpumping.com

Comparison Of Operating Costs, And Carbon Emissions Of Drying S…

Posted on 12. Feb. 2009 - 11:43

For customers and buyers of material handling & drying solutions, I believe it would be extremely useful to have a comparison information thread for all the major drying solutions.

Information to be submitted as:-

1. Energy Usage (MJ) / tonne

- Gasoil (litres) / tonne

- Electricity (kW) / tonne

2. Operating Costs (£) / tonne

3. Carbon Emissions (kg) / tonne

Based on 3 examples.

a) Sand Drying 6% down to 0.3% based on 50 tonnes per hour.

b) Coal Drying 40% down to 5% based on 200 tonnes per hour.

c) chalk Fines 10% down to 1% based on 100 tonnes per hour.

(The chalk fines are sticky materials)

CLPOLING
(not verified)

Fluidized Bed Dryer For Copper Slag

Posted on 2. Apr. 2009 - 09:38

We have experience in operating a Dorr Oliver Fluidized Bed Dryer with the application of Granulated Blast Furnace Slag drying from 10 - 12% to less than 1% at a throuput rate of 120 TPH.

Please send me a note if you wish to discuss positives and negatives. cpoling@bulkmaterials.net