Belt conveyor with slider UHMW bed by return side

Posted in: , on 30. Jul. 2020 - 00:54

Hi to all. I need to calculate tensions to define pulleys and idlers for a conveyor which use a kind of slide UHMW bed in instead of idlers by return side. So, I will appreciate if someone could guide on what I have to consider this, I know that UHMW has a low friction, but in replace of idlers on conveyors, I guess the drag by return, will be higher than if use idlers, UHMW, but how much higher could be in case I am correct?

Re: Belt Conveyor With Slider Uhmw Bed By Return Side

Posted on 30. Jul. 2020 - 10:50

If I have understood the enquiry, I believe that you can calculate according to F=u [friction factor] x N [normal force associated with return belt's mass subject to gravity etc], and add as a special resistance to your model [i.e. ISO 5048 Cl 5.1.4].

In principle this is similar to some of the other special resistances [i.e. cleaners, and ploughs] stated in Cl 5.1.4.

I have assumed that you have otherwise managed the return: inertia [i.e. "zeroed" idlers], and main resistances [i.e. zeroed/subtracted?] etc.

Regards,

Lyle

Edit: Typo.

Re: Belt Conveyor With Slider Uhmw Bed By Return Side

Posted on 1. Aug. 2020 - 08:12

Before delving into the spurious tension calculations just examine the cost implications. Purchasing will want to know if it is competitive & could low-fric be used on the chatting side as well. Then you'll get a lot more distraction than you bargained for.

John Gateley johngateley@hotmail.com www.the-credible-bulk.com

Fire Hazard ?

Posted on 5. Aug. 2020 - 12:47
Quote Originally Posted by Sebastian.cortezView Post
Hi to all. I need to calculate tensions to define pulleys and idlers for a conveyor which use a kind of slide UHMW bed in instead of idlers by return side. So, I will appreciate if someone could guide on what I have to consider this, I know that UHMW has a low friction, but in replace of idlers on conveyors, I guess the drag by return, will be higher than if use idlers, UHMW, but how much higher could be in case I am correct?

Dear Mr.Sebastian,



I fear that the friction may generate heat, which can cause fire accident. Why do you want to avoid rollers ?

Regards,

Re: Belt Conveyor With Slider Uhmw Bed By Return Side

Posted on 11. Aug. 2020 - 11:03
Quote Originally Posted by sganeshView Post
Dear Mr.Sebastian,



I fear that the friction may generate heat, which can cause fire accident. Why do you want to avoid rollers ?

Regards,

Hi, Mr. Sganesh, for this case, this is a conveyor that isalready designed under that condition, I just need to estimate the tensions to design the pulleys. First thing that I wondered was why this design consider UHMW on the whole return path but I dont reall know the answer for that Question!

Re: Belt Conveyor With Slider Uhmw Bed By Return Side

Posted on 11. Aug. 2020 - 11:12
Quote Originally Posted by Lyle BrownView Post
If I have understood the enquiry, I believe that you can calculate according to F=u [friction factor] x N [normal force associated with return belt's mass subject to gravity etc], and add as a special resistance to your model [i.e. ISO 5048 Cl 5.1.4].

In principle this is similar to some of the other special resistances [i.e. cleaners, and ploughs] stated in Cl 5.1.4.

I have assumed that you have otherwise managed the return: inertia [i.e. "zeroed" idlers], and main resistances [i.e. zeroed/subtracted?] etc.

Regards,

Lyle

Edit: Typo.

HI lyle, thanks for your answer, I removed almost all the effect of idlers by return side and included the drag due the UHMW bed on the whole return path using F = u X N. Finally I got more tension over to the pulleys than if used idlers.

As I replied to Mr Sganesh, this is a conveyor that is already designed in that way, I dont really know what is the purpose to use UHMW bed instead of idlers.