Hollow section square pipe

Posted in: , on 13. Jan. 2006 - 12:31

Sir,

We have noticed that in all larger size screens and huge double/triple deck banana screens the cross members are rectangular in shape.

The same manufacturer while making screens of smaller size uses round seamless pipes for the cross members.

We would like to know the techncal reason for using rectangular hollow sections and not round pipes for large size screens.

We find it should be easier working with round pipes than hollow sections.

Please explain with examples if possible.

Regards

Bhaskar.

Izharis

Posted on 14. Jan. 2006 - 08:04

Izharis!!



That is what bhaskar is also asking.

How is a rectangle stronger than a circle pipe, both sharing the same thickness and the same perimeter/circumference.

This happens to be a fundamental question.

Suppose we go in for circle pipe instead of a rectangle then what has to be done to get the same rigidity as rectangle pipes.

Regards

Sandeep

Profiles

Posted on 14. Jan. 2006 - 01:27

There is no difference. you can use both. Many companies using square profiles because fabrication is more easy.

We, as consultaces has developed other systems than frame structures. In case of vibrations, keep care of weldings.

There is a really good book "Hollow Profiles" for design and calculations.

Re: Izharis

Posted on 14. Jan. 2006 - 06:58

Originally posted by sandeep

Izharis!!



That is what bhaskar is also asking.

How is a rectangle stronger than a circle pipe, both sharing the same thickness and the same perimeter/circumference.

This happens to be a fundamental question.

Suppose we go in for circle pipe instead of a rectangle then what has to be done to get the same rigidity as rectangle pipes.

Regards

Sandeep

Greetings Sandeep,

there is more weld area using a square tube, but one must be very carefull not to over heat the side plates while welding-especially in repair of an old side plate. When you set up your welding job be sure to tack weld the tube on the flats in several places dependiing on the size of the tube to prevent twisting of the tube while welding.

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Square tubing allows one to weld gussets in center of the flat and their is no reason you cannot weld three gussets on each flat side of the square tubing to increase the strength of the screen, but this does not eliminate inspecting the screen sideplates for cracks around the shaker arm hole etc. or making sure the rubbers are free of packed material if you use isolation rubbers in the shaker arms. Happy welding.

Round Vs Rectanguler Support Members

Posted on 22. Jan. 2006 - 08:16

The vibrating screen manufacturers that I have worked for since 1977 use BOTH. BOTH are quite acceptable.

1. Typically reduction of overall mfg cost is the reason change is done. Reduce mfg cost> increase profit margin.

2. Round pipe sheds material better, less static load being carried

3. Must be careful on welding techniques on round to ensure any rails welded are NOT TOO STIFF or RIGID to avoid cracking off

4. Round pipes are typically SCHED 40 mtl, must be careful at ends to ensure no WARPING or TWISTING....squareness, typically using a welding JIG to ensure SQUARENESS is kinda mandatory in vibrating screen manufacture.

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