Travelling Tripper - Problem Being Faced

Posted in: , on 23. Mar. 2013 - 07:14

Respected Sir,

After so much positive replies and support that I have received from you all time to time, I would like to put forth one more problem that we are facing in our travelling tripper!

We have 2 Bunker conveyors (1000TPH) with 2 Travelling Trippers on each Conveyor.

In Travelling Tripper#1 Whenever the feeding exceeds 700TPH, the Belt gets swayed in the inclined portion to the extent that Coal spillages starts from one side, whereas in Travelling Tripper#2 we never face this problem.

In Travelling Tripper#1, the Belt always travels in centre and sway is observed only when the feeding exceeds 700TPH.

I have inspected both Trippers for Pulleys and conveyor Centre Line for any deviation and compared the same with the Rail on which the Tripper travels. The offset readings were found well below the tolerances.

Request your expert suggestions to find the Root Cause and rectify the same...

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Tripper Belts

Posted on 23. Mar. 2013 - 06:50
Quote Originally Posted by deepakvermaaView Post
Respected Sir,

After so much positive replies and support that I have received

from you all time to time, I would like to put forth one more

problem that we are facing in our travelling tripper!

We have 2 Bunker conveyors (1000TPH) with 2 Travelling Trippers

on each Conveyor.

In Travelling Tripper#1 Whenever the feeding exceeds 700TPH,

the Belt gets swayed in the inclined portion to the extent that

Coal spillages starts from one side, whereas in Travelling Tripper

#2 we never face this problem.

In Travelling Tripper#1, the Belt always travels in centre and sway

is observed only when the feeding exceeds 700TPH.

I have inspected both Trippers for Pulleys and conveyor Centre Line

for any deviation and compared the same with the Rail on which the

Tripper travels. The offset readings were found well below the tolerances.

Request your expert suggestions to find the Root Cause and rectify the same...



Namaskar DeepakVerma,

I am glad to see that the steel work is still within tolerance and

the steel has not wracked over time.

The first thing that comes to mind is the age of the belt

and its stretching becoming more elastic due to excess tonnage.

Is there a swiveled training troughing idler near the head pulley of the trippers carriage?

If not there should be one.

I would examine the belt carcass on the carry side to check for cracking and stress.

Re: Travelling Tripper - Problem Being Faced

Posted on 25. Mar. 2013 - 12:34
 
Quote Originally Posted by deepakvermaaView Post
Respected Sir,

After so much positive replies and support that I have received from you all time to time, I would like to put forth one more problem that we are facing in our travelling tripper!

We have 2 Bunker conveyors (1000TPH) with 2 Travelling Trippers on each Conveyor.

In Travelling Tripper#1 Whenever the feeding exceeds 700TPH, the Belt gets swayed in the inclined portion to the extent that Coal spillages starts from one side, whereas in Travelling Tripper#2 we never face this problem.

In Travelling Tripper#1, the Belt always travels in centre and sway is observed only when the feeding exceeds 700TPH.

I have inspected both Trippers for Pulleys and conveyor Centre Line for any deviation and compared the same with the Rail on which the Tripper travels. The offset readings were found well below the tolerances.

Request your expert suggestions to find the Root Cause and rectify the same...

 

Dear Mr.deepakverma

you have inspected the Tripper Pulleys but what about the tail portion of Traveling tripper.

Have you checked the Level difference between structure where the last idler frame is seated(i.e. where the belt is starts to pass over the tripper).

weather have you has self aligning Idlers at tripper end portion.

 

Tripper Issues

Posted on 25. Mar. 2013 - 05:50

At the least he may have a stretched portion of belt,

or at most a totally bad tripper belt that has to be changed.

If the tail end is bad the entire belt would be ripped on one

side from scuffing or the splices(if mechanical) would show

evidence of failure/splice separation breaking.

Roland Heilmann
(not verified)

Belt Or Sthg Else

Posted on 26. Mar. 2013 - 07:52

Dear Mr. Deepak Vermaa,

pls. allow one further question: Does the issue arise, when the feed passes 700 tph onwards 1000 tph, or does it arise when you start the conveyor in order to feed 700 tph or more? To put the question like this: Does the belt misalignment begin during normal operation at feed changes, or does it begin at start-up when full loading of the belt did not yet arrive at tripper car?

If the first: i support Mr. Izaharis' opinion that this is a belt issue.

If the second: Pls. check, whether part of the belt lifts out of the troughing (idlers) thus causing loss of alignment. Then take measures to align the belt along the rest of the length of conveyor up to the top of the tripper car or to correct belt tension or to adopt other measures as seems fit and as collegues on this forum already proposed.

However, in regard of other issues brought forward, pls. again consider the option to employ a specialist ON SITE in order to have a look on all related circumstances. Any personal opinion as transmitted here on forum can not replace a fully assessed & warrantied engineering decision.

Regards

R.

Travelling Tripper - Problem Being Faced

Posted on 29. Apr. 2013 - 05:22

I really suspect that your troughing idlers are not level and/or square with the belt line. At no load or light load the belt may be predominantly in suspension from the uplift tangent point to the discharge pulley so that the mis-training is not effective. At the higher rates the increased contact may result in the mis-training forces.

Joe Dos Santos

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Tripper Belt Lift-Off

Posted on 30. Apr. 2013 - 06:09

As Roland suggests:

Loading the belt up to the tripper concave curve at higher tonnages (>700 t/h) equates to higher belt tension leading into the concave radius ahead of the tripper. Higher tonnage = higher tension = lift-off @ concave curve or resulting in larger empty curve radius prior to loading this region.

If this scenario is not the case you observe, please clarify your method with point by point loading and resulting behavior.

Lawrence Nordell Conveyor Dynamics, Inc. website, email & phone contacts: www.conveyor-dynamics.com nordell@conveyor-dynamics.com phone: USA 360-671-2200 fax: USA 360-671-8450