Carbon Black grinding & agglomeration issues

Han
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Posted in: , on 10. Jun. 2008 - 22:57

Our processes are:

1. Carbon black (D50 is ~100 micron or larger) was heated in 140 C dryer to remove the moisture.

2. the grinded carbon black was fed into high pressure pan mill to grind to 0.7 micron.

3. An ethylene/propylene gas stream picks up the fine carbon black and transports it to a reactor. This stream is about 600 psig. The reactor is controlled at 490 psig pressure and 72 degrees C.

4. The grinded carbon black was supposed to coat on the surface of the products. However, for any reason, our final products have some 100 micron carbon black particles some time (most time is ok).

I thought that the agglomeration could be happened in the reactor, the stream pipeline or anywhere. Maybe the pan mill is also an issue. But we do not know where the problem is.

If you can help us to find where the problem is, we will appreciate it a lot.

By the way, the whole process I introduced above is sealed, we can not take any samples except raw materials and end products. So I am wondering if it is possble to build a high pressure cyclone sampler (or similar equipment) on gas stream line to get carbon black sample and measure its size distribution?

Until now, we measure the size distribution for raw carbon black. The "bad" carbon black showed the wider size distribution if the end products have agglomerated carbon black. But it may not be an issue.

Thanks a lot.

High Pressure Sampling

Posted on 22. Jun. 2008 - 12:58

Hi Han,

Anything can be done for a price - you can even collect ice crystals on Mars.

Pressure pot technology is fairly standard stuff in pneumatic handling. What is 600 psig - about 4,100 kPa - high, but within the limits of the ASME Boiler Code.

But before you rush into pressure sampling pots and stuff, try a "gedenken eksperiment", a thought experiment. Go through a FMEA Analysis [www.cospire / Engineering Tips]. Look at each significant point in the process and make note on Hi pressure, Lo pressure, Hi flow, Lo flow, and so on. It is like detective work [Miami Vice stuff if you like]. You have to gather clues, put together a theory of what you think might be happeneng, and then go back to look for more clues to confirm or deny your theory. Often, by the time you have gone through the procedure the answer will be staring you in the face [but there are no push-button answers on the Internet. You have to put in some sweat-equity in the thimking department].

Regards - John.rz

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